Episode 436 Shaan Patel Secrets to College Admissions Success Transcript

This transcript is from episode 436 with guest Shaan Patel.

Scott DeLuzio: [00:00:00] Thanks for tuning in to the Drive On Podcast where we are focused on giving hope and strength to the entire military community. Whether you’re a veteran, active duty, guard, reserve, or a family member, this podcast will share inspirational stories and resources that are useful to you. I’m your host, Scott DeLuzio, and now let’s get on with the show.

Hey everyone, welcome back to Drive On. I’m your host, Scott DeLuzio, and today my guest is Sean Patel. Sean is a college and test prep expert who appeared on Shark Tank and is the author of the number one bestseller Prep Expert Digital SAT Playbook. He transformed his life by achieving a perfect SAT score and now helps students improve their test scores And win scholarships.

And today we’ll discuss the college admissions process, test requirements, and how military personnel and veterans can leverage their education benefits. So before we get into that, uh, Sean, welcome to the [00:01:00] show. I’m really glad to have you here.

Shaan Patel: Thanks for having me on, Scott. Yeah, excited to be here and share any insights I can with the audience.

Scott DeLuzio: Absolutely. Thank you. Um, so can we maybe just start, uh, share a little bit about your journey from, uh, growing up in a budget motel to, uh, going in, uh, Achieving a perfect SAT score, which is pretty impressive. Uh, I know when I took the SATs twice, did not quite, did not achieve a perfect score, so I’m definitely impressed by that.

Shaan Patel: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I’m happy to dive into my background cause it’s a little bit nontraditional in that, um, you know, my parents immigrated to the United States in the 1980s, uh, with very little money. Uh, I think they had like 70 in their pockets. And they worked odd jobs from minimum wage, um, you know, uh, call centers to Burger King.

Um, eventually they saved up enough money to buy a little rundown [00:02:00] motel in a bad part of Las Vegas, far from the glamour of the strip. And, uh, that’s actually where I grew up. So, spent the first 15 years of my life growing up in that motel. And, you know, so I went to urban public schools, not in the best area of Vegas.

I, they actually had a 37 percent dropout rate, so close to 40 percent of all high schoolers would drop out of school. But with all that being said, you know, I was really lucky in that I had parents who supported me and, you know, valued education and encouraged me to study. And so I was always a really good student.

I got A’s and B’s in high school, but I was not a very good standardized test taker. Um, I had a lot of test anxiety. I didn’t know the first thing about test prep, college admissions, scholarships, any of that stuff. And, you know, my parents didn’t go to college in the United States, and so, um, I was kind of left [00:03:00] on my own, and on the very first SAT that I ever took, I also didn’t score very well, I, I just got barely above average, um, and so I spent hundreds of hours in the library from there, self studying for the SAT, eventually I was able to raise my score 640 points, To a perfect score, um, and that perfect SAT score completely changed my life because as you mentioned, um, only 0.

02 percent of all students get a perfect score, so it opened up a lot of opportunities for me. In terms of going to, getting admission into top colleges, uh, getting a half a million dollars in college scholarships, which was, you know, life changing because I didn’t have to pay a dime for tuition, housing, books, food, or any other college related expenses.

Um, and so, you know, when I got to college, I wanted to help other students improve their own test scores. And so I started PrepXpert [00:04:00] and in the very first six week SAT course that I ever taught, my students had an average score improvement of 376 points, which is equivalent of taking a student from the 50th percentile and putting them in the 90th percentile.

Completely changing their college and scholarship opportunities. And so, um, you know, I’m really proud that over the past 13 years at PrepXpert, we’ve helped over a hundred thousand students improve their test scores, get into top colleges, but more importantly, win over a hundred million dollars in college scholarships.

Um, and of course, you already mentioned the highlight of the company was pitching it on Shark Tank a few years ago and making a deal with Mark Cuban.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah, that’s awesome. Uh, that you got, you were able to, first off, get on, on Shark Tank. You know, it’s not every, every, you know, business that gets on there, but also, uh, getting the deal. Uh, was, was pretty impressive as well. Um, so, uh, you know, kind of tying this back, um, you know, some of the listeners might be sitting here kind of scratching their head, like, you know, okay, well, what does this [00:05:00] have to do with, you know, the military personnel and veterans and, and those types of issues?

Well, you know, the reason why I wanted to have you on the show is, um, you know, a lot of folks, they find out, they, they sign up for the military because they, that’s a pathway to college. They, they can get some college benefits through, uh, joining the military. Um, you know, they, they can get a lot of that paid for, um, you know, a lot, a lot of those expenses are, are kind of covered through the military.

Um, but one, one thing that I think. Sometimes folks overlook is, uh, the fact that they, they probably still got to take the SATs and, and get, get those standardized tests, uh, you know, out of the way. And like you, you mentioned earlier, uh, depending on your score, it could impact what school you end up, uh, being able to get into because, um, you know, Higher, higher ranked schools are not going to look at people with really bad SAT scores.

And if you’re not scoring well on the SAT, that can impact your future decisions and limit the options that you [00:06:00] have for the types of school that you want to go to. And if you know, one school has a You know, maybe a great engineering program or a great, uh, you know, business program or whatever it is that you are looking to get into.

And you’re like, I really want to get into the school. That’ll really help me with, you know, future opportunities. Um, but if you, you don’t score well on that SAT, uh, the standardized test beforehand, uh, then. You’re, you’re kind of, uh, you know, tying your hands behind your back. Almost, you’re, you’re limiting your options.

So, um, tell us a little bit about, uh, more about prep expert. You, you talked a little bit about it, how, you know, all the, the impacts that people, uh, uh, have, have received for through going through your program and, you know, the increased scores and, and all that type of stuff. What is it that you guys do that, that helps the, uh, individuals who are going through this to improve their scores?

Shaan Patel: Yeah, no, I’m happy to talk about that, but just real quick on your point about how this relates to military and [00:07:00] those in and interested in the military is we have plenty of students who, um, you know, go to top military, naval academies, and oftentimes it’s a requirement to take the SAT or ACT and get certain scores.

And it helps with admission significantly. Um, on top of that, your SAT or ACT score, unfortunately, lives with you forever when you want to go back to school and apply for college and determines, you know, not only where you’ll be able to go, um, if you choose to go back to higher education, but also, with how much money in terms of merit based financial aid.

Um, so if the military is of course not covering all of it, um, you can get additional financial aid through that. So, you know, it really does, um, impact in terms of how much you can get in terms of both admission as well as financial aid. Military related. So just wanted to tie that. Um, now to answer your question on, you know, what do we do?

How do we get these students [00:08:00] these results at PrepXpert? Well, there’s a few, um, kind of keys to our success that, uh, why our students are so successful with our PrepXpert SAT and ACT courses. One is, I think, you know, it’s based out of my own experience going from average to perfect. So all of the curriculum, all of the content, all of the strategies are very much from an average student’s perspective.

So it’s not really from a math PhD or an English PhD, which is where most of the content and curriculum of most other companies and courses comes from. Thank you. And so that makes it very, very relatable for most high school students, because I was once in their shoes. Um, then on top of that, um, you know, one of the big differentiators is all of our instructors have scored in the 99th percentile themselves and have helped thousands of students do it.

Um, [00:09:00] and they have a lot of teaching experience. So, you know, You know, anytime you learn from an expert, you’re going to have a leg up no matter the discipline. Um, and the SAT and the ACT are no different in terms of having an expert, um, you know, go through your weaknesses, figure out what, um, you know, really makes it click for math, science, reading, English, et cetera, for you.

Um, And then the third is, you know, we basically just guarantee it. So we have a 200 point SAT score improvement guarantee, where if you don’t improve your student score by 200 points over our six week course, um, you get a 100 percent money back guarantee because we didn’t do our promise to you. Now that’s conditional on completing the course.

I mean, you got to attend class, do the homework, do the tests, et cetera. And then four points on the ACT score improvement guarantee. So we really have some keys that makes it all work for us and is a recipe for success because we know when students do come [00:10:00] to those classes over six weeks, they do do the test, they do do the homework, they see these phenomenal results in score improvements over that time.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. And that to me is, is a huge deal because, um, a lot of times the folks, they go in, you know, a lot of times right out of high school, they joined the military. Um, maybe college was, was an option. Maybe they, they tried to take the SATs once and they’re like, ah, you know what, maybe college just isn’t going to be for me.

Cause they didn’t do great on their, their, uh, their first go around on the SATs. Uh, and they decided to join the military. Um, and so they, they go through, but then, you know, You know, as, as time goes on, they’re like, okay, well, I, I want to advance my career even in the military. Um, and, and they, they might want to go back to school.

And so they look back at their old SAT score from when they were in high school. And they’re like, ah, maybe that’s not the score that I want right now. I need something a little bit better. So they, um, you know, they, they try to figure that out, but, um, You [00:11:00] know, at this point, um, you know, they’re, they’re kind of on their own and to try to figure that out.

That’s why, uh, again, that’s why I wanted to bring you on and talk about, uh, you know, prep expert and the, um, you know, the different, um, tips and tricks and strategies and things that people might be able to utilize in order to, uh, improve their score and, uh, And get into a better school maybe, or, uh, if all of their education wasn’t covered for one reason or another, you know, possibly getting additional financial benefits and things like that through scholarships and financial aid, uh, you know, that type, type of thing, like you mentioned.

Um, now. When I took, I don’t even want to think how long ago it was when I took the SATs. Um, but, uh, it has changed. I know it is changed definitely from the, uh, I’ll just say the late nineties when I, uh, when I took the SATs, um, tell us about what some of the differences are between, you know, uh, you know, uh, in, in recent years.

Like what, what can [00:12:00] people expect when they go to take the SATs?

Shaan Patel: Yeah, so, um, you know, there’s been some major developments over the past year or two, um, on the digital essay or or Which is, you know, everyone kind of knows the SAT as this long exam, paper based, you know, you fill in an answer sheet, uh, that’s what it’s famous for, um, and it causes a lot of dread and fear in people’s minds, uh, but the SAT made some drastic changes in 2024 in that it went back Digital.

Um, so it’s fully online exam now. Now you can’t just take it online, um, at home. You, uh, it’d be nice. You could just have ChatGPT answer all your questions. Um, but you gotta take it at a, an approved testing center with a proctor. You can’t have any applications open other than the SAT test. But, um, What’s the significance of it going online is not just that it’s a digital test because it’s not just, you know, they [00:13:00] took the paper based test and they put it on a computer.

That’s not what happened. They completely reformatted the exam to make it more student friendly. So what does that mean? You know, the SAT when you and I took it used to be close to a four hour exam. Now, it’s only 2 hours and 14 minutes, so it’s almost half the length. Um, on top of that, there’s no more obscure vocabulary or long reading passages that everyone hated before.

They’re short passages, only relevant vocabulary you would see at your college or career. Um, On top of that, uh, the math, you know, everyone has a calculator in their hand now with the iPhone. Um, there used to be no math sections on the SAT, or no calculator, um, on the math sections on the SAT. That’s gone.

You have the digital calculator as well as you can use your own calculator, just like the real world. And so, um, you know, it’s really a much more student friendly test, whether, um, you know, I think [00:14:00] all the things that people used to hate about the math section and hate about the reading section, um, in English sections, they tried to take that away and make it more relevant to real world.

Skills and problem solving that you would need to do, um, in a day to day career, um, or in your college classes. So I love this new version of the SAT. Now, does that mean that SAT is easy? It’s not easy. It’s just easier because it’s now an adaptive test, which means the modules get harder or easier depending on if you do well or you do poorly.

That way it gets a more accurate score with fewer questions. Um, and there’s only a, and that’s the beauty of it. Now there’s only 98 questions total on the SAT. When you and I took it, it used to be over 200 questions. So it’s literally half the length, half the test. Um, and I think it’s, it’s been a welcome change for most parents and students for this new SAT.

Scott DeLuzio: I, that, that’s really interesting. Um, and. Yeah, one of the things that I [00:15:00] hated was like, really, you can’t use a calculator, like, in the real world, like, if I’m sitting at my desk in an office or something, I could pull out a calculator from my drawer, like, yeah, technically, back then anyways, the math teachers were always like, well, you’re not going to have a calculator in your pocket all the time.

Shaan Patel: You know,

Scott DeLuzio: Steve Jobs was like, oh, yeah. Watch this. Um, you know, so we all do have calculators in our, in our pockets now for the most part. And, uh, yeah, it does make sense. Like why, why make things unnecessarily harder, uh, than, you know, just, just because that’s the way it’s always been done. Um, you know, we, we do all have calculators available to us, whether we’re, uh, you know, on our phone or if, if, If I’m at my computer, I actually have a keyboard shortcut that pops up a calculator and I can just type in, you know, do whatever math I need to do.

And, and it’s, it’s super easy. So, um, you [00:16:00] know, we, yeah, we, we have them readily available. It really doesn’t make sense not to have it. So that’s, that’s kind of cool. Uh, uh, Cool changes. I, I’m actually kind of curious what my score would be now if I was to take, um, but you know, thinking back, it was nerve wracking and, you know, sometimes the, you know, the nerves get to you and, uh, you know, maybe you answer a question wrong because you’re, you’re nervous and you’re, you’re rushing maybe, or, um, Uh, and maybe a simple math, uh, problem, just adding a couple of numbers or, or dividing or, you know, something simple like that.

You, you might screw up a, uh, you know, a decimal place in the wrong place, or, you know, something you just did wrong, um, because you’re nervous. Um, but I mean, with a calculator, um, those mistakes, those errors, those matters of nerves, because you’re taking a test, like, and like you said, you’re, you weren’t great at standardized tests back then.

Um, And so, [00:17:00] you know, let’s eliminate that variable and find out what the person really knows. Do you know how to solve this problem? Um, I think that’s more important than did you get the right answer? Like, how, what’s the thought process behind it, you know? And so, um, with these new tests, um, it seems like that’s kind of what they’re going after, which is great.

Um, so even for folks who, you know, Maybe took it a long time ago. And, uh, they’re, they’re like, ah, yeah, that, that score wasn’t, wasn’t all that great. Um, they, they can retake it, right. Is there, I forget now, is there a limit to how many times you can retake it?

Shaan Patel: Um, no, so there’s no limit. I usually recommend taking it no more than, um, Uh, three times. Uh, usually I see the maximum score improvement after three, maybe four times, but the nice thing about that is colleges, um, military, naval academies, they only see your highest score. Um, so even if you took it, you know, ten times, they’re only going to see your highest [00:18:00] score, generally because most people accept what’s called score choice, which means you just take your highest score, you submit that.

Which is nice. Um, you know, one thing I’d love to kind of touch on about SAT, test prep, as well as military, um, or serving is, you know, one of the things I love about the military is that it teaches you self control and discipline. Um, and so, you know, that’s really, really important skill for life success is just the ability to have discipline, to have self control, to delay gratification.

And I think, um, you know, one of the things that a lot of people don’t realize about test preparation is you actually learn a ton about self control, discipline, delayed gratification, the ability to focus, um, you have to tune out TikTok and all the distractions and literally sit down and study, right? Um, and that’s really hard for most people.

So I think that one of the [00:19:00] biggest benefits that you gain, um, Whether you go to, um, you know, the military or whether you study for the SAT is just learning how to develop these skills of focus, preparation, discipline, self control, because you, they don’t come naturally and you have to focus. And also just learning how to fail, right?

Like I failed on my first SAT and then I had to improve, improve. And you know, you learn that in the military too. I’m sure on a lot of the exercises you didn’t succeed the first time, right? You got to fail and be, be resilient, et cetera. So, you know, I think, um, If you’ve learned those skills after, you know, going through and serving, whether it’s military, navy, wherever, um, you will be very, very successful at the SAT.

Now, if you don’t have those skills yet, and before you go to military or whatever, you’re not ready. You may not be so successful in SAT because you don’t have those skills yet. [00:20:00] And, or maybe test prep can teach you those skills to then be, um, successful later, which is, I think that’s really been the biggest benefit for me when I did all that studying in high school is like, I learned all these skills to focus, self control, delayed gratification, and that led to my success on SAT, sure.

But it also led to my success as an entrepreneur, sure. In college, um, and even in my career today. So, you know, I re I really think that it’s important for people to hear, like, there’s not just one way to learn these skills. There’s multiple. Um, and if you can do it in multiple, like if you do test prep and you do military, that’s even better.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. Yeah. And in getting that discipline, like you’re talking about, certainly, uh, that gets. drilled into you in the military. And so that’s, that’s from day one, you start getting that drilled into you. And so, uh, discipline, uh, you know, the, the routines that, that you go through, you know, day to day, [00:21:00] um, helps, uh, build in, you know, time and a schedule to, to set time aside, to, uh, do your studying, do, do whatever it is that you need to do.

And when you, uh, It took the SATs the first time and you know, didn’t quite go as well as you were hoping. Right. Um, then you took it upon yourself to, I’m going to figure this out and I’m going to, I’m going to nail this down. I’m going to study, I’m going to spend all this time in the library and do all the work that I need to do.

Um, when you do that, uh, you probably didn’t realize or you didn’t set out with the intention to And that’s it. So, uh, that’s it for today. I hope you found this helpful and if you have any questions, let me know. Thanks. And

Shaan Patel: That

Scott DeLuzio: you next time. Bye for now. Um, so, so you, by, uh, just kind of a byproduct of what you were trying to [00:22:00] achieve, you also achieved this other thing of the discipline and the delayed gratification and, and just knowing that.

Shaan Patel: I’m

Scott DeLuzio: you are working towards this other goal, it just provides you so many other benefits. And so, uh, for the folks who are listening, who have a military background, um, you know, you know what it’s like to dig down deep and find that discipline. Um, you know, when you would much rather be, you know, Going out and playing a, you know, round of golf with your friends are going out and doing, you know, you know, whatever.

Uh, you might know. Hey, there’s this other thing. That’s a little bit more important than that. Uh, I gotta, I gotta get in there and I gotta study and I gotta do all the work in order to, uh, finish my degree. Achieve this goal, right? And we’re not just talking, uh, you know, getting a good score on the SATs.

This is, you know, your, your college classes, uh, once when you get into college, where we’re talking about, you know, a, you know, a job, if you need additional skills, you might need to [00:23:00] go to, uh, you know, some additional training and courses and things like that. You, that discipline is.

Shaan Patel: again soon. Bye. Bye.

Scott DeLuzio: the most disciplined, um, you know, maybe soldier, sailor, marine, whatever it is that you are, maybe, maybe you’re, you’re lacking a little bit in that area. Um, you know, maybe a, uh, external course, like the prep expert that your, you’re, you offer, um, it might be. Be the thing that helps you turn that switch on in your head and get you into that mode, right?

Um, try something different, right? If, if what you’ve been doing all along hasn’t been working, well, try something different. That’s not going to hurt, right? So, um, so that to me, I think is, is one of the benefits of, of having an external resource like this, uh, that, that you can, you can go and, uh, just see.

You know, uh, what kind of benefit you can get from it? How, how much can you improve? And like you said, if you don’t improve [00:24:00] by, by a certain amount, I think you said 200 points on your, your SATs, um, you know, you get your money back. So it’s like you, you either come out ahead because you have a better score and you get into better schools and you can get more financial, uh, benefits, uh, Or you get your money back.

And so either way, to me, it seems like it’s a win win and why wouldn’t people give it a shot, right?

Shaan Patel: Yeah, yeah, and, and, you know, to your point, I think that’s one of my favorite parts about PrepXpert is, um, you know, you would be surprised about how many reviews we get from students that don’t even talk about the SAT. They talk about how this course taught them about life, it taught them about discipline.

You know, one of the strategies in the course is literally turn off the technology. You know, I mean, how explicit is that for our teenagers to hear? To get off social media, to get off YouTube, to get off TikTok, you know, sit and focus. And, you know, it’s just [00:25:00] such a great message. And I know it’s not fully related to SAT, but I put it in the course anyway, because I think it’s just so important to their life success in the future, right?

Um, and if they go down that path of just, you know, mindlessly going through reels all day, I don’t think they’re going to be positioned very well, not only for the SAT, but just in general for life. And so, um, that’s my favorite part is just teaching the life skills. We literally have 20 life skills strategies in the course.

Whether it’s SAT or not, I think it’s going to help you on SAT, but I think it’s just going to help you in general about studying productivity, college, career, etc. Um, you know, so, so, you know, I think whether you use PrepExper, use a book, use self discipline yourself, you’ve got to learn these skills.

Scott DeLuzio: Exactly. Yeah. It, and without these skills, you’re, you’re going to be, you’re going to be doing exactly what you said. You’re, you’re going to be, Oh, let’s sit down to study, but Oh, like, Hey. Check out the cool stuff on [00:26:00] social media. There’s a, you know, the funny cat videos or whatever it is that you’re looking at.

Right. And, and then you’re distracted and all of a sudden you’ve wasted an hour scrolling through social media and you haven’t spent that time studying. Um, and so these types of life lessons, uh, you know, especially for the younger generation who has Essentially grown up with a phone in their hands or a tablet or, you know, whatever, some sort of device in their hands.

Um, sometimes it’s hard to, uh, separate the two. They’re, they’re almost, it’s almost goes hand in hand, but, but there’s going to be a teenager and there’s going to be a phone with them or there’s going to be some device with them. And, uh, And it’s hard for them to turn it off because they’ve never really had to.

And so, uh, you know, that’s great that those types of skills are being taught in there. So, um, so that they can take that and hopefully apply that to not only test taking, but, you know, You know, college, you know, their college future [00:27:00] and, and even in their careers, um, you know, you sit down in a, a business meeting and you’re scrolling through social media, you’re going to miss some stuff and your boss is going to be pretty upset.

So, you know, those, those things, I think, you know, maybe to our generation, we kind of take that for granted, um, that like, we kind of know this, but maybe some of the younger folks who. I’ve grown up with a device in their hand, they may not quite get that. And that’s kind of a sad thing, I think. Um, you know, because, uh, they’re going to be, they’re going to be the ones in charge of stuff, not, not too long.

And,

Shaan Patel: mean, I think about it a lot, right? Like, I think about it a lot. We’re very, very lucky to have grown up with a childhood that did not have technology in our hands, right? Because I think technology, as great as it is, as amazing as it is, You can have a lot of curses. And I think if you’re not careful, and if you’re a young child who’s very impressionable, who gets a lot of [00:28:00] dopamine from, you know, reels and YouTube, um, you can kind of go down a rabbit hole.

And so I’m just so happy I was able to have a childhood like you likely had a childhood that didn’t have this and you were able to go and play outside and, and, um, you know, do activities that you enjoyed that, um, yeah. You know, you weren’t constantly connected and entertained, uh, which was perfectly okay with me.

Now, now, but of course, I’m very thankful that we have the tech now, but I think now as an adult, as we got, I got my first iPhone, I think sometime after college or during college, um, I’m able to much more easily manage it because I learned how to live without technology first. So it’s really, really important for our kids.

Scott DeLuzio: I don’t even think that iPhone existed when I was in college. So, so I definitely got mine after college, but, um, you know, it’s, you know, an interesting, uh, Point of view that you had there. Um, you know, we, we do live [00:29:00] in different times. Um, it’s great that we have technology because right now you and I would not be able to talk if we didn’t have the technology to communicate this way.

Um, you know, we wouldn’t be recording this episode. Um, so technology is great. Uh, you know, for certain purposes, but, um, and, and even social media, I think is great too, because you can have people all over the country, all over the world, and you can connect with each other and share stories and information and stuff like that, that to me, I think that that stuff is great.

Um, it’s, it’s when you go, go down those rabbit holes of just. Mindlessly scrolling through things. If you’re going on for, you know, intention based things, I’m, I’m looking to see, you know, what is my friend who lives in, you know, uh, wherever in, in London or, or something, you know, what’s my friend up to these days?

Cause I haven’t, I haven’t really caught up with them lately. Uh, let me, let me go online and take a look and see what they’re up to. Oh, cool. Caught up with their life. Let’s move on. You know, that type of thing. [00:30:00] Um,

Shaan Patel: yeah, and there’s nothing wrong with taking breaks and, you know, having some leisure time. Um, it’s just limiting it, right? So again, one of the strategies we teach in our course is to study for 50 minutes or in this case, for many people listening, work for 50 minutes. And then take a 10 minute break and I’m like, okay in that 10 minute break, you can go crazy with Reels or YouTube, whatever you want to do.

But then after that 10 minutes, get back to your 50 minutes of work, you know, um, because what ends up happening is like you said, people start mindlessly scrolling and then it’s like, okay, well, where did my three hours just go? And, uh, you know, it, it’s like, It, it could really be counterproductive. Um, so, but, but you know, I totally get it.

If you’ve been working hard, studying hard for 25 or 50 minutes, take that five, 10 minute break. Um, totally makes sense. We call it the Pomodoro. I mean, I, I didn’t invent it. It’s called the Pomodoro Technique. But again, it’s just another great example of, of like a life skill that we teach at Prep expert.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah, [00:31:00] absolutely. Um, this has been great. Uh, you know, learning kind of about the prep expert and, uh, the, the benefits that people can get from it and, and, um, you know, getting into the, the school that they, they really want to, as opposed to just settling for what they’re able to get, uh, based on, you know, a score that, you know, Maybe, uh, they didn’t, they didn’t get their, their best effort into, um, you know, and so, uh, I think all of this is, is really incredible.

Uh, I do encourage folks who are, uh, you know, looking to get it, go, go into school, either going back to school or, uh, you know, uh, going to school for the first time, uh, get some help. Uh, I know there was a, a, Prep class that I took for my high school had, um, you know, it was like after school for, you know, an hour or two or something like that.

And, uh, you know, we, we did a little bit of prep and it helped. Um, but you know, I think the more help you get [00:32:00] is, is just gonna, gonna make things so much better for you. Um, you want to give yourself all the opportunities and, and that’s why I wanted to have you on, uh, provide one more resource to folks who may not be aware of the, this resource.

And, uh, It may not even be on their radar because they’re, they’re just thinking, Oh, I’m just going to go to school because I, I got the money through the military and I don’t have to worry about any of this other stuff. Well, you actually might, depending on where you’re going to school. I know some schools are going away from doing some of the tests, like a test optional type of thing.

Um, but some schools are. And so, um, you know, depending on where you want to go, this, this might be something that you really need. Um, and, and even based on what you were saying, uh, it seems like, uh, even if you don’t necessarily need it for the school that you’re going to, um, it, it still provides some pretty valuable lessons.

So I’d still, still encourage people to check it out, uh, and see what, What it has to offer. Uh, tell us where people can [00:33:00] go to find out more about PrepXpert and the stuff that you guys are offering and, um, and, and where they can, uh, sign up.

Shaan Patel: Yeah, for sure. So for parents and students who are interested in improving their SAT and ACT scores, getting into their, you know, college of their dreams really, and um, winning scholarships and financial aid, you can find all of our books, our courses, our curriculum at prepexpert. com. That’s P R E P E X P E R T dot com.

Um, and you can even download some free stuff. Uh, we’ve got some free masterclasses to help with productivity, um, some free eBooks and things like that, right on our website, prep expert. com.

Scott DeLuzio: Excellent. And I will have a link to that in the show notes as well for the listeners who maybe want to, uh, check it out and find out more information and, you know, you know, how they can sign up and get [00:34:00] involved with a PrepXpert and hopefully help, uh, improve their scores and improve, Improve their overall lives.

Right. Uh, I think that that’s kind of a goal here. And so, um, I want to thank you again, Sean, for taking the time to come on uh, the show and, um, and for all the work that you do, uh, that, you know, helping folks get into, uh, into school, get, get the financial, uh, benefits from scholarships and, and, uh, And things along those lines, um, I think is is super important.

And, and it’s, uh, you know, helping to create a better future for, for a lot of these people and ultimately, uh, for all of us, you know, their, their futures are, are gonna be tied into everybody’s. Uh, so, so I, I do appreciate everything that you do.

Shaan Patel: Yeah, same here. Thanks for having me on, Scott. It’s been a pleasure and I hope to do it again sometime.

Scott DeLuzio: Absolutely. Thanks so much.

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