Knowing Your Core Values

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Scott DeLuzio: 00:44 Hey everyone. Today my guest is Lyn Christian. She is a founder of Soul Salt and a motivational speaker. Lyn speaks on topics related to leadership, time management, career reinvention, and how to find your purpose and live a badass life. So, Lyn, thank you for being on the show. Welcome. Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do?
Lyn Christian: 01:08 Sure. So, I grew up in rural Utah. My father was a Marine from the Korean War. And so, I grew up with a jarhead uniform in my father's closet that he would put on occasionally. And so, I grew up in a very rural setting and so I would have a lot of freedom. I got my chores completed. I could ride my bike down to the family farm, saddle up my pony and be gone for the rest of the afternoon. So, I knew a lot of freedom. I grew up and decided that when I was in high school, I thought I wanted to be an attorney because I was good at debate in high school. And in every debate, I was in for the three years I was in high school, each time I got the highest points.
Lyn Christian: 01:59 And so I thought, well, it's out of the speaker’s presets kind of pointing me to an aptitude I have. I should probably develop that. And of course, I thought, well, the logical thing is to go study political history and social science and then go get a lot of greens. And, in high school I had some habits that were sort of pulling me one way. I was running and training for a track team. I was supposed to be a mild sprinter and I had really done some things to my body the night before. And I'll leave that to your imagination that I just couldn't perform. And I sat down literally on the curb with my feet in the gutter and thought, what am I doing? And then I also thought, not just in this moment, I am trying to force myself to do something and I didn't prepare my body for it.
Lyn Christian: 02:52 So I had this epiphany, and then I thought what am I doing with my education? Like I really want to go to law school and then spend the rest of my life arguing. And it's not that I don't have great respect for law. As I asked myself that question, I didn't get a resounding, yeah, that's true for you. In fact, I thought that's going to just eat away at me. I'm competitive, I am driven, and I am going to just get into a rat wheel or I'm going to be on one of those hamster's wheels the rest of my life. And I've looked across the street and sitting in front of my elementary school, I had run so far that I was at the other end of town and I was sitting in front of elementary school and I decided I want to go do it.
Lyn Christian: 03:43 Those people in that building did for me. I want to go inspire and elevate people's opinions about what they can do with their lives. And so that's what I did. I bagged a scholarship and I went and got a degree in education, became a schoolteacher. I taught for 15 years at the time. When the 15 year came around, I was a single parent raising three children. I wanted to look at the National Guard and see if that was a place where I could earn some supplemental money. Lo and behold, I had just passed the age where I could do that. So, I started looking at other ways to earn a living and eventually left and went into business and became a writer. I wrote instructional design for Franklin Covey. I did some ghost writing for them, became a project manager and in the meantime, I had been the recipient of some good coaching and found out that personal development that a coach has is really life.
Lyn Christian: 04:40 It's like a finishing school for adults. So, I took some of my savings, went back to school, studied to become a coach. And then while I was working full time at Franklin Covey, I worked part time as a coach, built up a practice. By the time I left Franklin Covey, I had been asked to be the director of innovation for their coaching company, and I was leaving behind what looked like corporate security to start my own business. And I haven't looked back since that year 2004, when I did it full time, started coaching at 1998 but I took a while to build the personal coaching side of it. So, today I support the entrepreneurial mindset; I work with reinventors. So sometimes that's somebody who's leaving corporate America and wanting to reinvent and do something with their own DNA, inject that somehow into a capitalistic society and find out if they can make a living by doing things that inspire them.
Lyn Christian: 05:44 I also work with the entrepreneurs who have employees and I talk a lot about those topics you mentioned, how to be true to yourself, how to be strong. Because your listeners, if you've been through the armed services, you know, there's a difference between strength and power and endurance and that strength can look strong in the gym but not be strong, when you have all your belongings that belong to you at that moment on your back and it's half your weight, you know, real strength comes when you can functionally move with that kind of weight. And then also how to stay focused, knowing where to attend and what are distractions. So, things that I know people who are trained in the armed services must attune to, those actually have crossover to the things that I coach individuals on. And so that's a nutshell of a professional life right there in front of you. That's maybe more than you wanted, but I hope that paints a picture of why I ended up in front of you, Scott.
Scott DeLuzio: 06:54 No, it's actually good. And I like hearing people's journeys because sometimes, life throws curve balls and you never know where you're going to end up. And it's always interesting. you start off as a schoolteacher and then you flirt with the idea of going into the national guard and just because of timing really is the reason that you didn't go into the national guard when it comes down to it.
Scott DeLuzio: 07:25 Your whole life trajectory from that point forward could have been totally different had you actually gone into the national guard. And so, I do always enjoy hearing people's backstories and where they come from and how all of that happens. So, when you first reached out to the show, when we first communicated a little bit, there were a number of potential topics that we're going to talk about and I think we're going to cover some of these topics in future episodes. We're going to have you back on the show because I think they're all great topics for the veteran audience that we have. Today we're going to be talking about knowing your core values and making choices that are true to yourself. I think one of the problems that many Veterans face, whether they realize it or not is just not knowing their own set of core values. This could be for anyone really, but I think that Veterans especially could fall into this category. First off, could you define what we're talking about here when we're talking about core values?
Lyn Christian: 08:33 Yes. So, I'm going to agree with everything you just said, Scott. Because we can be recruited into a business. We can be recruited into the armed services and part of us then adopts a core value system from the entity that we were, that we join, that we gave our consent to be a part of. And so, when I define core values, by the way, the name of my company is Soul Salt, which I did not name. I had been in business for about five years with the name of just Coach Lyn because I knew I would come up with a really cheesy brand if I had to brand myself because I'm not a brander. And so I had the marketing people come in and they gave their feedback, they listened to people I'd worked with and they said, you know, there's this thing that you do that's one part very tangible and palpable.
Lyn Christian: 09:26 You help us deal with what's in front of us in this world. And then there's this esoteric part where we don't know how you do it, but you reach into our souls and help us hear this inner wisdom. And so, they said, you should be called salt of the soul. I'm based in Salt Lake City, Utah. And so, it was like, wow, the soul doesn't roll off your tongue. So, we just dropped part of that, transposed the other part and it's Soul Salt. And I lean into that name of the company that the clients gave us because a big part of what we do is we check in on what is your inner plum line. So, you don't have to be an engineer or carpenter to understand a plum line. Today. We use lasers, but the Egyptian, the ancient architects who created the pyramids, we give them credit in part.
Lyn Christian: 10:18 We also see that the Greek builders and Roman builders use them. But a lot of people think it was the Egyptian culture that came up with this idea of on a string, put a weight. A stone is better than wood because stone won't warp and erode as quickly as, as wood. And they would build these massive structures that we get to witness today. They, those pyramids and those structures withstand the test of time. So, if you want to understand core values, that's one way to think about it. It's an inner plum line. Another way is it's a moral compass that points towards certain things the sort of light up and are your North stars. There are other ways to think of it. There are scientific things that we can talk about it in a moment of how to access it because today, we have such great technology that we can see inside the neuro networks of one's head, heart and gut in the moment. We can start to see that even today we are discovering that perhaps core values come from a pattern of neural network firing, that we're the way we're wired so that we have a propensity towards certain guiding principles.
Lyn Christian: 11:44 Does that give you a convoluted or a clearer definition?
Scott DeLuzio: 11:48 I think that makes sense. And I think, I wanted to have that definition to make sure that everyone is on the same page that we know what we're talking about when we're talking about core values. Because realistically it's going to be somewhat different for everybody because my core values are going to be different than yours and it's going to be different from anyone who's listening to this. It's important to know that, just because my core values might be X, you know, whatever it is, doesn't mean that it has to fall in line with anybody else and you shouldn't feel awkward or strange that yours aren't lining up with mine because that's just not how these things work. So, that makes sense with what you said there. Like I said, I want to make sure we are all on the same page with that.
Lyn Christian: 12:51 Can I expand what you just said, Scott?
Scott DeLuzio: 12:53 Yeah, sure.
Lyn Christian: 12:55 Even one of the Army's core values of personal courage, and I read through that definition even to a word of courage. Courage is one of my core values. And we use words. Words are not things, they're more like the tools we use to explain something that's going on inside of us, where we make meaning or how we define things. And so, even if the words are the same in people's core values system, that doesn't mean they define it. And thereby they don't align with the same behaviors necessarily, even though the words might seem identical. It is unique per person, like a thumbprint. It's unique.
Scott DeLuzio: 13:42 Right? Yeah. And that makes total sense too. Someone might look at the word courage. Someone might define that as standing up to an adversary of some sort and that could take courage. It also could be just doing something that you're afraid of. If you're afraid of heights and you're going up on a tall ladder or something like that, that might take some courage to do that type of thing. Speaking from experience there where I am afraid of heights so I, can hear that where even certain words might have different definitions to different people. Now that we know what core values are, how does somebody go about figuring out what their core values are? I'm sitting here and now I understand what core values are. How am I going to figure out what my core values are? So, I know what are those important things to me?
Lyn Christian: 14:53 And that is a process and I'll take you through part of it. Part of that process if you'd like Scott. It is a unique process. It's almost like the distillation of rum or how the due condenses slowly, it forms. And so being patient and giving yourself an allowance of having it occurred to you over time is very wise. Even after you identify it, allowing it to be malleable over time and refine. Because what I find for myself and for those around me when I'm working with clients, this is a baseline concept of what we do together and my coaching practice, even when we identify that plumb line, the rest of your life is an experiment on refining. Well, what did I mean when I said courage and how does it manifest in this decision or how does it guide me in this situation?
Lyn Christian: 15:53 So it can be a lifelong process of having a conversation with that inner plum line, even once you identify maybe what the different vectors are that converge in and give you that line. So, what should we just play with that for just a minute and give the audience a chance to follow?
Scott DeLuzio: Yea
Lyn Christian: So, first thing I would ask you to do is there are people in our lives, and Scott, be thinking of it, because I'm going to ask you directly to name them. There are people in our lives that stand out as holding deeper meaning for us than others. Maybe it's because we admire some piece of them. It's hard to admire an individual in totality because we have our shadow side, but there are people that we might admire for some aspect of their character. It may be somebody that we respect or somebody that we can't put our finger on it, but we have an affinity for them. Like there's a reason we feel drawn to them. We notice them, we want to see what they're doing. They're almost like a micro hero for some aspect, or it's like, yeah, what they're doing. That's me. That's what I want to do. So just off the top of your head, as you've heard that little bit of stimuli, what did that evoke in you Scott? Name three people that came to mind.
Scott DeLuzio: 17:20 Yeah, so the, as you're talking, several people did come to mind. I think how you were saying how in totality, you know, maybe you don't have that same affinity for the person, for their whole, everything that they are. But there's bits and pieces that you admire about those individuals. One of the people that popped in my mind, somebody that I served with in the military and he does a lot of great stuff with his kids and he's always putting his kids first and he's just a really great father. So, to me, just his attitude and his appreciation for his children and just being a great father is one of those things that I look at and that's somebody who's doing it right.
Scott DeLuzio: 18:25 Then there's someone, I'm just going to use my father as an example, there's others that pop into mind. Someone who has worked a long, hard career and he's made a success of himself and runs a successful business. And so, on the business side of things, he's somebody who pops into mind for that. So, there are a couple examples there of people that popped in my mind, right away while you were talking there.
Lyn Christian: 19:06 Those are really great examples. So, this service buddy of yours, there's something about what he does with his kids. You called him a great father. So, I'm going to ask you to reflect for just a moment. What is it about him that he's marrying back to you that wants to be bigger and stronger and better?
Scott DeLuzio: 19:30 in myself? Is that what you're saying? This is mostly through social media. So, we're always seeing each other’s A game. You're not posting the blooper reel on social media all the time. So, when I compare myself to that, as a father, I compare myself to that and I am including all my blooper reels, all the excerpts that wouldn't necessarily make it onto Instagram or whatever. And I see all those things and I feel like maybe there's things that I could do better. And I know, I am doing a good job as a father and I am doing good things.
Scott DeLuzio: 20:31 So, I see him, and I just see his devotion and his willingness to do just about anything for his kids is just really one of those things that encourages me to go out and be a better father. I see how he interacts with his kids and the things that he'll do for his kids. It makes me want to go out and do better and be better because we can all improve no matter what we're doing, even if we're the best. That's one of those things that you never hit the peak of your game on that. There's no star athlete, if you will.
Lyn Christian: 21:26 Can I play a couple of the words that you gave me to then and just notice if you, if you feel one ringing truer to you than the others. One was being inspiring to children and the other one was devotion to the children. Is there one that sort of rings more clear or truer than the other?
Scott DeLuzio: 21:49 I think the devotion aspect is something that, if someone was to ask me when speaking about him, if there was any doubt in my mind that he was devoted to his kids or there'd be absolutely none, no doubt whatsoever. That's how I feel about my own kids and that's what I want to be for my kids. I want to be devoted to them and I want to be encouraging to them and I want to help them with figuring out life like we all are trying to do. That's one of those things that rings true.
Lyn Christian: 22:40 Well, I have the benefit of being able to look into your face and watch your expressions and your hand movements and even see that when you said that. I'm going to give you the challenge personally. Your listeners won't get to do this. When you go back and look at this recording, notice Scott, that when you talked about this, you came from the heart and we suspect that our core values do have a function. There are 40,000 sensory neurites that we've been able to identify today in the human heart. So, they sort of lit up and you were using body language where you took your hand pointed to your chest when you were using the word devoted to these children. And if you go back and listen to the recording and people who will hear that, it's like you said, I'm devoted to them having a good life.
Lyn Christian: 23:32 So some people might listen to this recording and say, oh because I'm being fairly transparent what we're doing here, that he values family. And maybe you like that word as a value. I would challenge you to say, you know, when we talked about it and when I gave a few questions and you went deep, deeper than just a cursory answer, you gave flavor and polar around that devotion. And I wonder if you look back over your history as a father, we're even in the time when you, when you were a serviceman, active duty, I think you were an infantry.
Scott DeLuzio: 24:13 That's correct. Yep.
Lyn Christian: 24:14 Yeah. Was devotion always a part of your guiding principles and even though you didn't get there may be a hundred percent of time, you said, I am willing to go there and I'm wanting to go there. I value that. Can you see other examples of devotion?
Scott DeLuzio: 24:36 Yeah, to my wife, to when I was in the military, I went in 100%.
Lyn Christian: You were fully devoted?
Scott DeLuzio: There were times when it sucked, and I didn't want to do the things that we were doing and there's always those types of things that are happening. I never, during that time was thinking, Oh, this sucks. I'm just going to quit. I'm going to walk away and I'm going to go AWOL. And I'm going to be done with this. That was never a thought that crossed my mind. I have a job; I need to do it. And that's basically the end of the story there. It was just, just do the work and get the job done, you know? So, there's certainly other examples like that, but for brevity, for the second episode, we cannot dive too deep into that.
Lyn Christian: 25:43 Well, as we look at it, you can see a pattern of how this principle as you define it, plays out. And it's a realistic thing. Like for military people that are listening to this and not military people that are listening. That's the reality. There were times as an infantry man, there were times as you were probably going through basic training, it sucked. There are times as a dad, it sucks. There are times as a husband, as a wife, as a partner, as a spouse, it sucks. And yet if you see that even in the hard times, you stayed devoted, the pattern across the board was when things ironed out, when shit hit the fan, at the end of the day, I was still devoted. There must be something inside of you that you use to guide you because that is a piece of you that's as much a part of you.
Lyn Christian: 26:34 That's an important part that's big and bold and transparent and beautiful about you. And that's what our core values are. The army can have seven individuals. I am usually three, sometimes two, maybe fourish. But the fewer we have, the less schizophrenic we feel. Because when push comes to shove, we must make decisions, and something must lead. And even, let's say you had three core values, one is going to have to lead in some decisions because the other two may be in conflict. And so, that's one of the ways to find it. And I'll tell you this, let's make this offer to you guys. I believe in this so much that I've taken hundreds. In fact, at one point we had 16,000 people going through our online course to figure it out their core values. So, I have an online course and we'll give you a huge discount, like we're going to make it ridiculously accessible to your audience.
Lyn Christian: 27:33 And so in the show notes, go back and find out there'll be a code just for your audience, Scott. If people want to go through our course, there are other ways to find it. You can search it online and you'll find a hundred ways to do it. Why people come out with a big smile on their face and surprise and going, wow, I didn't know that was going to happen. And yet there's that satisfaction when it rings true like I saw in your face, Scott, when we talked about devotion, we got deep. There's something there that is undeniably you and it has always been you. And that's what we're talking about when we talk about these core values, AKA plum line, AKA North star, whatever you want to call it. They are guiding principles that have been guiding you regardless of your ability to have identified them up to this point.
Scott DeLuzio: 28:23 That's really good. And I'm glad we covered what they are and how to identify them. With all that knowledge and this maybe out of order here but this might sound like a silly question, but what difference does it make if someone knows their core values or not? Maybe to rephrase that because I that sounded,
Lyn Christian: 28:50 I liked that question, Scott. I like that question. So, it's like, so what?
Scott DeLuzio: 28:55 That's not how I wanted it to come off, but I guess could someone be just as successful in navigating through life if they didn't know what their core values were. What is the significance, I should say?
Lyn Christian: 29:10 Good question. Well, to that question about could somebody do this without knowing? Probably they could be somewhat successful because if they are really functions of some neuro networks and they are firing, but it's the difference between being competent and being consciously competent. It's the difference of knowing that you can lift a lot of weight, but also knowing how you use the levers of your muscles and to lift it elegantly, efficiently and without injury. So, yes, it is like a power tool. I think it's one of the reasons people started calling me a badass. I'm 60 now. When I was 50, they started calling me a bad ass and I was like, well, it could be because I'd been invited into the elite gym, Gym Jones here in Salt Lake City. It could be because I can do a double body dead lift.
Lyn Christian: 30:10 Today I weighed in at 109.5 my double body dead lift is 245. So, I'm like, yeah, it could be those things, but those are surface. When I peeled back and got some research going, it was because I have this inner formula for integrity, and I know it's helped me make decisions. A really good case study of that is an old one, and I relate to this because I had a child in my arms, a baby in my arms back in 1982 when Tylenol had this terrible what was Johnson and Johnson Tylenol was one of their heavy hitters that had like 33% of the market share for the its brand of painkillers. And I woke up one day to hear this terrible story about a little school girl in Chicago who had a headache and her parents gave her a Tylenol and sent her back to bed and said, we'll come get you in an hour and if you feel better we'll go to school. And they went back. She was dead.
Lyn Christian: 31:13 Now Johnson and Johnson for a while did not know what was going on. And none of us who were following that terrible story knew what was going on. And what was worse was we had babes in our arms and children in our family and we had Tylenol in our medicine chest, so we potentially had poison in our medicine chest and come to find out Johnson and Johnson, the backstory is they went back to their credo, their core values that said, our stakeholders come second. Our clients come first, so they pulled all the Tylenol off the shelves completely disrupted the stockholders plan, perhaps a boom year and they lost millions and millions or hundreds of millions, at least a hundred million. Come to find out somebody had tampered with Tylenol put finite in the capsules. This is how we have today tamper-resistant containers from this one thing that happened in history that was horrible that took lives, but Johnson and Johnson was not at fault.
Lyn Christian: 32:22 Had they hemmed and hawed, made excuses, done a spin, tried to save their stakeholders, they probably wouldn’t have survived as a company, and we all have pivotal moments when we must make a decision. When push comes to shove or we need to know, how do I guide my life? We need to know is this an opportunity for me. Well, if it is, if it doesn't align with my core values, I as your personal coach in this moment would say, why the hell are you even considering them? Because it's going to pull you out of your integrity from the get-go. When you stand on the bedrock of your personal integrity, you are formidable. And when you are formidable, you are on the foundation to reach for success. And so that's why I so believe in core values. Does this answer your question?
Scott DeLuzio: 33:09 Well, it certainly does. That really helped solidify why knowing what these core values are, that each of us have, are unique to each of us. Knowing what they are and now we know why they're important. Right? We know what the core values are. We know why they're important to know how that helps us make choices that are true to ourselves following along those core values.
Lyn Christian: 33:41 Well, so here's an example, an entrepreneurial coach, Mark Twight and Lisa Twight at the time had just left Hollywood. The 300 movies were hitting the screen. They were having phenomenal success, getting the physiques of real authentic strength into these actors and actresses. They were working with the Navy seals. They were working with other secret services and they were finding so much success that they needed help and I worked with them very quickly. They were quick studies. Within six months we met their objectives and Mark and Lisa turned to me and said, thank you for coaching us. This has been so useful. We want to coach you. We have an invitation only gym, Gym Jones. Have you ever been to a gym? I said, no. I just finished raising three kids. What would I have done in a gym? I have my own business.
Lyn Christian: 34:35 I've raised three kids as a single parent and they said we would like to invite you to come and let us coach you and I had to go back to my core values and I took each one of them. One is integrity. For me, integrity is being willing to be honest with yourself. And I thought, you know, honestly, this kind of intrigues me. One is courage. And I thought it also scares the shit out of me to go into this place and transform. But courage is one of my guiding principles. And the last one was freedom. And I realized I was just about to turn 50 and my body wasn't as strong or as fast as I had been as a kid. And I thought maybe I'm losing some of my freedom. So, I signed up. I said, yes, that changed my life.
Lyn Christian: 35:28 So that's just a practical decision where I looked in all three were in alignment. To your point as a parent, I had a situation with my daughter, she was tiny before I'd even identified these values, she destroyed a piece of property. Unwittingly, she put her foot on a gentleman who was a neighbor who was a master gardener who had created these, he purchased these shrubs from some international garden space that spelled out his name and that was on his lawn. And when they were covered with snow, she thought they looked great and she wanted to stand on the one letter in his name. That was the first letter of her name. She stood on it and crushed the little plant
Lyn Christian: 36:14 Now, nobody saw it, but she and I, it was in the nighttime and I could've walked away from that. I was poor, single parent schoolteacher. I didn't have the money to replace this shrub, but deep in my heart I knew I needed to teach her honesty. It goes back to my integrity value and I needed to be honest myself. I would go by that man’s yard every day and I would say, we lied about that. So, holding her hand, we went to his door, we knocked on the door and both of us crying. We told him what happened. He was livid. He was crying, but enough emotional intelligence was driving him. But he said, please come in. And we talked together and by the time we talked it through, he said, you know, I'm a master gardener. I have a free account with this company.
Lyn Christian: 37:08 I can get another shrub. I'm crushed because this is my life, but I'm also glad you told me because I would still be suspicious of my neighbors so we had a win win, but it was one of the hardest things I've ever done and it's taught this child something and it taught me something. So that's the kind of gut wrenching in the moment guideline that we all need to keep us with our moral compass aligned and I can't think of a better time in history when human beings need to revisit what is that moral compass and make decisions that are right for us but can also live in co-creative rightness or alignment with others. There can be mutual success and sometimes it just comes down to Scott, what do I value? What do you value? On the outside, it may look like they are disparate. It may look like they have to be in concert with my belief. We can find ways, I'm not talking compromise, we can find ways for mutual success and come up with new ways of living together. That puts us all in our integrity, once again.
Scott DeLuzio: 38:24 That's a really great example of how that core value of integrity helps you not only make the right decision and do the right thing by your neighbor, by going to the door and telling him what happened. But also, by instilling that value in your own child, by showing her this is what you do when you do something wrong and you mess up, well, let's go make it right. And it might hurt, but you have to own up to your mistakes and whatever your actions happened to be because that's just who we are as people of integrity. And that's how that works. So, it looks like we're coming up on time. We went a little bit over time here on this episode, but it's really been great. Good information on trying to figure out our core values and knowing who we are and how that can help us down the road make better decisions. It's been great having you on the show. Where can people go to find out more about you and what you do?
Lyn Christian: 39:43 Sure. So, S O U L S A L t.com. We have a website, lots of blogs, even sign up for our newsletter. I usually do a Facebook live every Tuesday morning, mountain time, nine o'clock. And I personally run the Soul Salt Instagram account and my own account, which is Lyn Christian, so I run those accounts. I rarely post on Facebook. I'm not on Twitter. I do spend a lot of my focus on Instagram. I'm on LinkedIn. I think those are the best places. And maybe even a future talk or a future conversation, we'll talk about conversational intelligence. I do have a temporary podcast we put together called, what's your conversational intelligence? And I have a TEDx talk. You can look at TEDx Salt Lake City. Look at my name, L. Y. N. I'm little, I'm 5’4” so I'm not real tall so I only get one N. That's how I remember to tell audiences one N in Lyn.
Scott DeLuzio: 40:56 That's great. Okay, well thank you again for being on the show and sharing this information. And like I said, we'll have Lyn back on in some future episodes as well to talk about a few of the topics that I think will really be beneficial to Veterans and their family members, potentially and other people who are listening to this show. I think Lyn has a lot of really good information to share with the audience. So, thank you again, Lyn.
Lyn Christian: Thank you.
Scott DeLuzio: 41:28 Thanks for listening to the Drive On Podcast. If you want to check out more episodes or learn about the show, you can visit our website, DriveOnPodcast.com we're on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at Drive On Podcasts.