Episode 251 Wayne Altman Tinnitus Relief with Melody Clouds Transcript
This transcript is from episode 251 with guest Wayne Altman.
Scott DeLuzio: [00:00:00] Thanks for tuning in to the Drive On Podcast where we are focused on giving hope and strength to the entire military community. Whether you’re a veteran, active duty, guard, reserve, or a family member, this podcast will share inspirational stories and resources that are useful to you. I’m your host, Scott DeLuzio, and now let’s get on with the show.
Scott DeLuzio: Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Drive On Podcast. Today my guest is Wayne Altman. Wayne is an army veteran and an entrepreneur who founded Melody Clouds after suffering from tinnitus and was looking for relief. We’re gonna be talking today about Melody Clouds. What it does and the healing and beneficial effects that technology can provide to all of us.
Scott DeLuzio: So welcome to the show, Wayne. I’m glad to have you here.
Wayne Altman: I am very honored to be here, number one. I’ve enjoyed our conversation so far. Thanks for having me. Yeah,
Scott DeLuzio: absolutely. Why don’t you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself and your background for those who may not be familiar with who [00:01:00] you.
Wayne Altman: Well, like you said, I’m a Army veteran. I spent eight and a half years in the Army and I ended up with a raging case of tinnitus, ringing in the ear. You described it very well. And back in May one of my friends said, Hey I, you gotta hear this because it’s really helped me out, and I’m the least woowoo guy you’ll ever meet.
Wayne Altman: I don’t have a chakra. I don’t I’m proud of everybody who does. I am not a shaman of any sort. Okay. But he put these headphones on me and let me listen to binaural. At 174 megahertz, and I heard silence. I heard silence for the first time in like 30 years. I’m 55, and I had not heard silence in a very long time, and I’m like, Hey, what?
Wayne Altman: What did I just listen to? There was music. I heard the music, but other, I didn’t hear this ringing this [00:02:00] high pitch wine in my ear and he goes, yeah, I thought you would like that. Well, that was in May, June 1st. We bought the domain Melody Clouds . Five months later. I got an app that was released yesterday, just released yesterday on the iOS and on Android.
Wayne Altman: You gotta go check ’em out. But I had, I knew I had to bring this to other people because I know a lot of my guys that, you know, serve, have tin. Tinnitus or tinnitus. Right. Loud noises. What you’ve done is you’ve injured your nerve in your ear and you’re hearing the repercussion of that. That’s what you’re hearing.
Scott DeLuzio: Right. And before we started recording, you and I were talking about the different jobs that we had in the military and where one job is more likely, according to the VA anyways, more likely to be exposed to loud noises. I was [00:03:00] infantry, so, when I went to them filing my claim and saying, Hey, I had you know, exposure to loud noises, I had hearing loss.
Scott DeLuzio: Tinnitus, all this stuff. They basically just said, oh yeah, well based on your job, of course you do. And they just basically signed off on it right away with, without really much more going into it than that, you know,
Wayne Altman: obviously. Yeah. I had a much different experience by the way. You did, right.
Scott DeLuzio: You had a much different
Wayne Altman: experience. Different experience, but I guess. I went in as a 71 Lima administrative specialist. I don’t even think that they have that job anymore. I was in information security and when I, it was suggested to me, look, most veterans, I would pretty much say 90% of us really are not interested in that.
Wayne Altman: That’s not why we served. It wasn’t, you know, whatever. We have to be forced basically to, to take anything. They, you know, told me, Hey, look, you’ve lost about 70% of your hearing. I know exactly why they said you’ve, they diagnosed tinnitus. But when I went to the [00:04:00] VA to, you know, get some help with that, they were like, oh, no, no, no.
Wayne Altman: You 71 Limas. We’re reading your job description. You don’t get that. And I was like, well, that’s new. Now look, that is to say anyone that’s not a veteran, anyone that’s not in the military, let me tell you how you got it. You listened to loud music, so did I, you li you went to concerts, you heard loud noises and any loud noises like that, those, that’s going to damage that nerve or those nerves, and that’s, you’re hearing the result of that damage.
Wayne Altman: That’s what you’re. Right. So it’s for everyone what I’m saying. Look, o one of the things, one of the reasons when I started jumping into this the c e o former c e o of Texas Roadhouse restaurants he took his own life because of this. Condition. The, we, you know, we’re laughing, you know, having a good time.
Wayne Altman: But this is a serious condition for a lot of people. And the more I learned [00:05:00] about it, the even faster did I run to try and bring something to people, especially my boys that served alongside and
Scott DeLuzio: grow. And I guess my point for bringing up the fact, You know, you were in, admin side, I was in infantry.
Scott DeLuzio: It doesn’t matter what your MOS was, what your job was in the military, you could end up having tinnitus, hearing loss, any sort of things like that. Hundred percent regardless. And there’s not to even mention the other things that you mentioned about, you know, going, listening to loud music, going to concerts things like that.
Scott DeLuzio: I mean, if you were deployed anywhere, Doesn’t matter whether it was more recent wars or the Gulf War, Vietnam, whatever. If there was an loud explosion going off next to you Yeah. Or loud, heavy gunfire or things like that, and you don’t have proper hearing protection, you’re probably gonna damage your ears in your hearing.
Scott DeLuzio: Yes. At some point. You know, 100%
Wayne Altman: to that. Yes. And by the way, you don’t even. Sorry, you don’t even have to be deployed [00:06:00] because Sure. Everybody knows you gotta go to the ranges just like everybody else. You are in the motor pool, you are around a lot of very loud diesel engines or you’re, I mean, look the list goes on and on and on.
Wayne Altman: I mean, every single one of us is, finds ourself just by living our lives. Finds ourselves in places that are loud with loud noises. So you’re, and you’re right, we just had a massive lawsuit with 3m. The federal government, the Army in particular, had a massive lawsuit with 3M because of the hearing protection.
Wayne Altman: They found it to be substandard, low bidder, and guess what? That there’s no arguing that that had an effect on a massive number of our service people and civilians by the.
Scott DeLuzio: Right, right. Because it could be really any number of things that causes that hearing loss. And it could be unexpected too. You know, even you know, just walking down the [00:07:00] street and near a construction site or something like that, something could, you know, make a real loud noise and you know, it, it could happen that way too.
Scott DeLuzio: You know, there’s so many different things that, that could cause it and. You know, I know I, I’ve dealt with this for the last 14 or so years. I know you, you said about 30 years for you. And I know a lot of the listeners deal with this too, so that, I guess the reason why I’m talking about all of this is I know this is an issue like you said there the former c e O of Texas Roadhouse Took his life over all of this, it is a serious,
Wayne Altman: serious issue.
Wayne Altman: And I wouldn’t have mentioned that it’s been in the news. You know, that is one of the news articles. I mean, you can look it up online. That is absolutely public information. And look, this is not only a single event injury, but it is also a cumulative injury. So the older you get that, Accumulation of loud noises also puts you at a high risk in to ha to get this condition.
Wayne Altman: So right and unfortunately right now we don’t have a cure. Melody [00:08:00] Clouds is not a cure for this condition. What it is though, is a treatment and you can get a respite. You will get a respite from that noise, find the right frequency, and you are going to counteract that noise that’s going on in your head.
Wayne Altman: And believe me, that is some. Relief for a lot of us too. . I mean, it is. You’ll go back to it. Go back to it and I’ve made it portable too, so you know. There you go.
Scott DeLuzio: And that, that portability is great too, because you can pop in the earbuds when you’re going out for a run or a walk or you know, just you’re exercising, you’re walking the dog, whatever it is, or you know, even listening to it in the car while you’re driving.
Scott DeLuzio: So, so that way you’re not. Driving yourself batty, listening to that. That same
Wayne Altman: annoying noise. Right? I definitely tried to come up with a solution because look, one of the things I wanna let everybody that suffers from this know is you’re drinking what tea. You know, any stimulant will [00:09:00] make this worse.
Wayne Altman: Sure. You’re kind of contributing. And look, by the way, I’m drinking a diet Coke, so guess what? I’m doing the exact same thing. You know, you, you can’t What I’m, my, my point is you cannot stop living the same way that people that don’t have a hard time with this path right. And by the way, hearing loss.
Wayne Altman: When you have hearing loss, you what you, what do you do? You tend to turn things up, which a exacerbates the hearing loss and it annoys your wife or whoever happens to be around you. Right. My kids are constantly, I, it is funny, I’ve turned the table on my kids. They go in the car and turn the music. Never once have they gone, Hey dad, I’m gonna turn, you know, they always turn it down.
Wayne Altman: My kids will not get tinnitus from me. .
Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. So, you know, there there’s so many different ways that, that people can get this. And really there’s no cure, like you mentioned there. There’s no cure. This isn’t a cure, it’s just a brief respite from the symptoms Yep. That you are [00:10:00] experiencing. And unfortunately it is one of those things that over time, That concert that you went to when you were 20 years old could be one of the factors that Cumulation definitely contributed, affects you when you’re in your fifties, sixties and even beyond.
Scott DeLuzio: So you talked a little bit about bial beats. What are binaural beats?
Wayne Altman: Oh, good. I’m glad you asked me that
Scott DeLuzio: question. Yeah. Can you describe what that is for the listeners who may not be familiar?
Wayne Altman: Yeah. Because this is what’s really cool. I love the science of this. And by the way, none of what I’m about to, this is science.
Wayne Altman: This is not, some dude made it up in a, okay. This is actual the science part of it, which is what gets me a little bit excited. Okay. So your brain is an electrical device. And it operates with by electrical charges. And that will dictate your mood. It will dictate your body’s reaction to things.
Wayne Altman: Those electrical signals are what has our brain, the way our brain communicates. Now, what we’ve [00:11:00] discovered, I say we, but what they have discovered is. That if you take a megahertz, if you take a signal in one ear and a different signal in another ear, so binaural, your brain will split the difference and operate at a totally separate signal from the these two signals.
Wayne Altman: So at 174 hertz, you can relieve pain and stress for P T S D patients for. Okay. You can block grief, you can manipulate moods. That’s why our tagline is take charge of your mood. So if you find yourself angry, pop in headphones, right? You will be able to. De-stress de-escalate and change. Take charge of that mood.
Wayne Altman: And here’s the proof, here’s the proof of this. Just in a nutshell, [00:12:00] there’s only been 17 movies in the history of cinema that do not have a soundtrack. All of the thousands and tens of thousands of the others have a soundtrack. Even silent movies were not silent. They had someone in the front playing the piano.
Wayne Altman: And that music is what told you how to feel about the images you’re looking at. Right? Right. You have children. Yes. Okay. Wally, did they ever watch the movie, Wally? Yes. Okay. Would it shock you to know that for one hour and 40 minutes there was no dialogue whatsoever in that movie and your child sat there with her hands in their lap?
Wayne Altman: Watching what was going on the screen, knowing with everyone in the room knew when to be happy. Everyone knew when to be sad. Everyone knew when he was in love. Why? Well, they could see the images, but it was the music that was manipulating the mood in the room. And an hour and [00:13:00] 40 minutes was the first word of dialogue.
Wayne Altman: Human I That’s, yeah. Right? Yes. Yeah, it totally is. Especially when I remind you that you don’t take chaikovsky when you go to the gym and work out, you take Metallica, right? You take something that’s gonna get your pump on, right? Right. That’s what you take. Well, you’re already doing what we’re talking about here.
Wayne Altman: You just don’t realize that this is, you know that you’re providing your brain, me. Because that’s what we’re, Melody Clouds uses those things to medicate to help your brain change whatever mood or to adjust whatever mood that you’re in.
Scott DeLuzio: You know, I just, this morning I was talking to my wife. I was about to go out for a run and my Playlist on, on my phone was sent to Christmas music.
Scott DeLuzio: I, I had Christmas music going on. I was like, well, I’m gonna have to change that before I go out because I’m not gonna be listening to Jingle Bells.
Wayne Altman: I was just gonna say, no, try it. Do this experiment. Go running the jingle bells, [00:14:00] see how far you get, you know what I mean? I mean that is just not going to work out for you as well as if you are, you know, the flight of the Concord or what whatever music really kind of pumps you up.
Wayne Altman: Now then that brings us to Sol fio. So Fios a little bit different. Okay. This is how long this has been going on. Right? So the first that I was able to research and go back in, so fio was an Italian monk in the 11th century. Guido Dire, I’m thinking of changing my name to that by the way. Guido decided that he, even though he did not play a musical instrument, so do you play a musical in.
Scott DeLuzio: Years ago in, in high school, I played saxophone, but I have not picked it up since then. So, , yeah.
Wayne Altman: I have never been able to play a note on a musical instrument, but you and I would both know when one was out of tune. Sure you pick up a guitar and start [00:15:00] playing it. I’ll be able to tell, oh, you gotta tune that thing, right?
Wayne Altman: Piano. You hit a sour note. That is XiO. That is our ability, our natural ability to figure out that something is not right. It is out of tune, and once you bring it back into tune, then you make sweet music then. Everything in the in your atmosphere is correct. Right? So XiO frequencies, you only have to listen to.
Wayne Altman: They’re not Boral. You can listen to ’em on the backside of whatever music you’re listening to. They have the same properties. As Boral beats, some people react better to Boral beats. Some people react better. Tosio, which is another reason that I totally believe that all this is not bs. Okay? Because if you and I go to the doctor and he gives you cholesterol medication and gives me cholesterol medication, he is going to monitor us to [00:16:00] make sure that it actually worked.
Wayne Altman: Is he? Right, exactly. There’s a very good chance that one of, or the two of us is not going to react well to the medication he gave us. And we will have to make adjustments to not only the type of medication, but to how much of that medication we are ingesting. We’re all different. My point is, if someone had come to me and said, Hey, dummy, here’s Boral beats and it works the same on everybody, I would’ve been like, no.
Wayne Altman: We’re all, we’re way too different.
Scott DeLuzio: Right? And we are all different. I mean, there’s so many things that we do just like, you know, a cholesterol medication, a you know, even vitamins and things like that. Other nutrients and stuff that, that you take you know, the stuff that, that I take for my health and my benefits and things like that.
Scott DeLuzio: It’s be way different than what my kids are gonna take. You know, the we’re two. Well, we have
Wayne Altman: food. We have food allergies. Some [00:17:00] people can’t stand to hear the word moist . Right. You know what I mean? I mean, how many times do you hear that? I can’t hear the word, but you can’t hear the word moist. I mean, don’t ever say that around me, by the way, because that’s all you’ll hear, but you see what I mean?
Wayne Altman: We all have very, we have different reactions to the same stimuli. Okay? That is what makes this so important. And by the way, I will hasten to mention that there is the same side effects for you, are the same side effects for me. In other words, you’ve been listening to music your entire. Right, and the side effects for that are the side effects.
Wayne Altman: In other words, you calm down, they’re all positive side effects. And immediately, if you are listening to music that you don’t like or that, don’t me, for me it’s jazz. I cannot listen to jazz. To me, that sounds like a cacophony. It doesn’t, it makes no sense. And I wanna get as far away from it as possible.
Wayne Altman: That’s the side effect to me [00:18:00] listening to jazz. Okay. All I’ve gotta do is turn it off and I’m out of that. You. Don’t wanna offend any jazz musicians in the audience, but, you know, hey, look, dude, find something else to do. Right, .
Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. And right. So, so, you know, we all have different needs. Right? The, you’re talking about the different frequencies of the sounds that, that come in through these Boral beats.
Scott DeLuzio: What worked for you may not work for me, but something else may work for me that didn’t work for you. So it doesn’t mean that, oh, I tried it once and you know, let’s just throw in the towel cause this is never gonna work. But there’s something else out there,
Wayne Altman: right? The good news is on Melody Clouds available now on the iOS store, you can, I have taken all of those frequencies.
Wayne Altman: I have placed them in what the, here’s what they do. And then I’ve separated them into different types of music. So people, some people like listening to one type of music. I’ve got it on. Nature sounds for other people that don’t wanna listen to music. So in other words, I’ve [00:19:00] grouped them together and they, I’m telling you what they do, what these should do for you.
Wayne Altman: Okay? So if you wanna listen to 2 85 Hertz you should expect that you’re going to heal tissue in organs, and here’s how that works. Okay? Again, I’m the least woowoo dude on the planet, but when I started looking at the science behind this, it really flipped me out. Your brain, okay? It is amazing. So when you get injured, what do we do?
Wayne Altman: We pick you up and we take you to the hospital, right? Mm-hmm. , if you’ve been hurt bad enough, you need to go to the hospital. But why do we do that? Why can’t you heal in your own bed? Or why can’t you heal right where you got? And the answer to that is because we need your brain to be calm and peaceful so it can dictate where the resources in your body need to go to create that healing.[00:20:00]
Wayne Altman: Okay? 2 85 Hertz does that. It puts you in the most optimum place for your brain to go. Ankle injury, get on it, liver damage, you’ve gotta fix. And it is the experiments have been going on for long, long before the seventies when it got really hot and heavy. I mean, we’re talking 11th century. People have started figuring out, oh, wow.
Wayne Altman: People who listened to these frequencies or got their brain to that focus, they healed way. So this is, like I said was fascinating to me to find all of this and I could not wait to bundle it all up and bring it to people because it actually works. We have a huge effect on people suffering from P T S D or depression.
Wayne Altman: It’s not a cure. But it is definitely, we have the ability to give people a respite from their, you know, P [00:21:00] T S D or their, you know, depressive thoughts. And it’s incredible. It is a incredibly gratifying to know that.
Scott DeLuzio: So it almost seems like the different frequencies are almost. Different drugs that you might take in a traditional sense.
Scott DeLuzio: Hundred percent. You might take a certain drug for your, you know, heart condition. You might take another drug for your your depression or you know, something, you know, along those lines. But you can almost. Hone in on whatever the issue is that you’re dealing with certain
Wayne Altman: frequencies.
Wayne Altman: They can do an EEG and figure out what emotion you’re going through. Let’s say guilt. Let’s say that you felt guilt over a traumatic event. They can go in and go, oh look, your brain, there is a awful lot of guilt signals going on in your brain, so 3 96 hertz that is going to block those feelings of.
Wayne Altman: and we’re going to do this for B periods of time so you don’t feel that guilt as badly. [00:22:00] Or at all for periods of time, because what does, what do those things lead to? Very, very negative consequences for you walking around, feeling guilty about things all day long, every single day. I mean, the outcomes are horrendous.
Wayne Altman: They’re very bad now. Does it, does that mean that it works on every single person in exactly the same way? Absolutely not. Again, we talked about that. Some people like spicy food it for me? Mm-hmm. cannot do it. Dude. Don’t wanna be around me. I can’t eat that. But I like garlic. I, you know, there are other things that I can do.
Wayne Altman: Same thing here. Four 17 hertz. It will actually make your brain want to change things. In other words, there are a lot of very self satisfied people out there that think, Hmm, don’t want to, you know, I don’t wanna do it. I don’t wanna change. Well, guess what? Put a Boral bead in. Let’s get your brain at four 17 Hertz.
Wayne Altman: We know you [00:23:00] need to make these changes, and it helps facilitate that. It’s crazy.
Scott DeLuzio: And like you were saying, this is not a cure. It’s not one of those things where, oh no you listen to these beats for whatever period of time it is, and all of a sudden the depression is gone forever or anything like that.
Scott DeLuzio: However, when I was talking to someone about this the other day, when you have nothing but negative thoughts in your head. Yeah. And it’s negative, negative, negative. It’s like there’s no room for anything else, cuz those negative thoughts breed more negative thoughts and it’s just Yep. Constant negativity.
Scott DeLuzio: Yep. And I made the ex the analogy of if you took an empty glass and just put food coloring in and that represents the negative thoughts. All that’s in that empty glass right now is the negative thoughts. But if you were. Then fill up the rest of the glass with water. It dilutes those negative thoughts.
Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. And now it, now
Wayne Altman: you’re dealing with become manageable and bearable and you’re exactly right. They’re layer,
Scott DeLuzio: [00:24:00] But they’re not. Overbearing and just, yep. Only thing that’s there,
Wayne Altman: right? Yep. It’s not going to cause you to look for other solutions that aren’t really solutions. You’re gonna see a reduction in the amount of alcohol.
Wayne Altman: You’re gonna see a reduction in the amount of drugs that people are reaching out to. One, one of the things that I did, or one of the reasons that I did what I’m doing, or I’m doing what I’m doing, is because, look, man the pharmaceutical industry is a freaking. Okay, that you can put compounds together and hand that to someone and they can heal or they can change.
Wayne Altman: You know what I mean? That is a miracle, but it is not a solution for every single thing that’s going on, going wrong with someone. Right? You cannot. You cannot prescribe pills for every single situation and expect good outcomes because what do you do when those pills are gone when they don’t have access to that medication?[00:25:00]
Wayne Altman: What about the side effects? The negative side? I mean, watch a, watch, a TV show, and the list of side effects that they have to go through and list when, meanwhile, you have Melody Clouds, you have other apps that do basically the same thing and the the side effects are, Really, I mean, they’re the only effects are the beneficial effects.
Wayne Altman: There are no negative side effects. You know, maybe your time. But other than that, that’s it. Sure. And,
Scott DeLuzio: You know, you’re right about the the side effects and things like that of the other medications. Cuz you may take a medication to solve one issue, but like those list of side effects that they talk about on the commercials Yeah.
Scott DeLuzio: Are so long. And then you’re gonna end up having some one of those side effects that is unmanageable. You can’t just deal with the whatever issue it is and so you go to the doctor for some other medication to, to treat that symptom. Then that medication has a whole list of other side effects.
Scott DeLuzio: And then,
Wayne Altman: Well, [00:26:00] it also goes back, it also goes back to changing the medication. That’s again, it with us. If you found a a frequency that did not do what you needed it to do, right. Then you change frequencies. There are frequencies that will do basically the same things. They just do some things differently.
Wayne Altman: Right? Or if you find a frequency that does not really work for you, then maybe change the music that you’re listening to it with. It, but it’s not I mean, it’s an exact science, but it’s not an exact science. Everybody’s different. We’ve talked about that. You know, everybody’s a little bit different.
Wayne Altman: But you know, that that’s the nature of being human and, you know, trying to facilitate change, trying to help people with you know, what you’re doing.
Scott DeLuzio: Sure. So we talked a little bit about the benefits of binaural beats. What types of symptoms can people hope to address by using this type of.
Scott DeLuzio: This type of music or the software you’ve developed?
Wayne Altman: Yeah, [00:27:00] so it basically anything having to do with your mood, you know, the, there are binaural beats and SIO frequencies that will block grief. I mentioned that if you’re going through a divorce or if you’re going through a death in your family, And you find yourself just sad all the time.
Wayne Altman: That’s not good. That is going to affect, there are side effects to grief over prolonged periods of time. There are side effects to anger over long periods of time. These are negative feelings, negative emotions. Every emotion has a proper place. There are certain things that we do, we should feel guilty about, but there shouldn’t be a.
Wayne Altman: Guilt or a constant anger or a constant sadness. And if those that is entered into your life, then you need some interventionalism, you need some something to intervene and that will give you a break for that from that. So you can kind of take control back again and then, you know, get back to a normal, [00:28:00] especially without zoning out.
Wayne Altman: Look, one of the things that I really like, I get a, and I get a lot of comments back, is focus. Lot of people talk about being in the zone. He was in the zone, tiger was in the zone, and man, every, okay, well guess what? We can recreate that for you. If you’d like to be in the zone. If you want to be in the zone and be focused on something, maybe you want to drive, you’re going on a long drive and you’d like to be, you know, hyper-focused on what you’re doing.
Wayne Altman: Probably a good idea. Mm-hmm. . Well, guess what? You can drive 30 to 40% further when you’re focused like that, and you’re a lot safer. Okay. So focus that, that’s a very positive, you know, of side effect or effect of this these type of Frequencies. Or let’s say that you’re in pain, you’re in a lot, you know, a moderate amount or a lot of pain, and you don’t wanna take Fentanyl and Vicodin and Percocet and all of those things because they make you nauseous.
Wayne Altman: Well, guess what? There are frequencies [00:29:00] you can listen to and it will block some of that pain from you. And so look the the things are endless. It’s endless. However many emotions that you have. There are frequencies now we’ve identified that you will, you know, you’ll get benefit from.
Scott DeLuzio: Well, that’s great.
Scott DeLuzio: I think the listeners, especially the issues that people are dealing with, Varied and there, there’s so many different things out there that people are suffering from. I actually had somebody one of the listeners reach out to me a few weeks ago and asking me if I would have an episode dealing with anything to do with tinnitus and I thought to myself looking back at all the episodes that I’ve done, it’s been about 250 episodes so far.
Scott DeLuzio: I haven’t had a single episode other than just, you know, casual. Conversation about somebody having tinnitus, not actually about any solutions or what can people do about tinnitus or anything like that? Yeah, I haven’t really [00:30:00] had anything about it. And so, when your name came into my inbox, I was quick to jump on this because I wanted to offer some sort of solution really for tinnitus and for.
Scott DeLuzio: The people who are suffering from it. Because I know, especially in the military there’s a lot of people, probably a much higher
Wayne Altman: percentage than I was gonna say there. It’s gotta be, the numbers have got to be just through the roof, right? You know, more often than not, you’re going to suffer from some type of hearing.
Wayne Altman: Malfunction some type of ailment. Look the, there is no cure. There really are no treatments. I have tried so many oils and different sound machines and all kinds of stuff, and I own 14 other businesses online. I am an entrepreneur at heart. I like how the way these things put, putting together a business and, you know, and I was.
Wayne Altman: Successful. Okay. Whatever your definition of successful [00:31:00] is, well, you know, whatever. But this stopped me in my tracks. Right. And look what we’ve only touched on one very small part of what Melody Clouds does. Sure. You know, we are really even more than the tinnitus and helping people that way. We want people to relax.
Wayne Altman: And, you know, be able to find a respite just from their day. I mean, you carry around the wealth of human knowledge in your pocket, whether it’s on the iOS platform or whether it’s on the Android platform. You know, every single thing that has ever been discovered in mankind, in the history of mankind.
Wayne Altman: And you carry it around with you. And that’s a heavy load, bro. That is a heavy load. I wanted to put together music and things to help people relax. Old time radio programs, ESOPs, fables. I mean, I’ve got a award Hall of Fame radio host that is reading [00:32:00] ESOPs Fables to kids, because I discovered that they no longer, you know, we don’t have Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons teaching those ESOPs fables anymore.
Wayne Altman: And dude, I’m telling you those that taught you how to. In public. It taught you how to treat one another, and here we are. We’ve forgotten all about it. We don’t teach that anymore. One thing I want to mention is anybody that is interested in this, alright, I do a $2 and 99 cents for the first 60 days. That should give you plenty of time to know whether or not you want to deal with the fat ball guy.
Wayne Altman: Okay? $2 and 99 cents. That ain’t Jack now. Fortunately for everyone that downloads Melody Clouds, which is now available on the iOS platform, the largest button on the entire app, guess what it is.
Scott DeLuzio: I don’t know. I haven’t even taken a look at it cause it just came out. I haven’t had a
Wayne Altman: sense you the unsubscribe button. Okay. The largest [00:33:00] button on the entire, you can tell I’m Army Okay ua, because the largest button is, if you don’t like it, press the biggest button. You don’t like it. Hey, no harm, no foul.
Wayne Altman: I don’t want anybody’s money that does not want to, you know, find or does not find value in this. Okay? Apple went back and forth with me for over a week because that button was too big as far as they were concerned. Guess what? Apple, I win. After the 60 days, if you decide we are a match, it’s $5 and 99 cents.
Wayne Altman: $5 and 99 cents, which is exactly one third of what my competitors, if you wanna call ’em that, my competitors charge. I don’t need $20 a month. I don’t need $30 a month to bring this to you and to. Okay. So I wanna make it very clear that if you pick someone over me, you’re, it’s you being stupid.
Wayne Altman: It’s [00:34:00] just, it’s you got too much money. Okay.
Scott DeLuzio: Right. Yeah. It’s I looked at the pricing. It’s very reasonably priced. And you know, the, you said 2 99 for 60 days to give it a try. 2 99. Yeah. It’s more than fair. It’s more than fair to just give it a shot and super easy to unsubscribe.
Scott DeLuzio: That’s one of the things that I know I am always cautious about. Whenever I have any sort of subscription thing that I sign up for I’ve been on the phone for hours trying to unsubscribe from things that I signed up for in the past. And so I always wanna make sure that there’s, there is a way out of whatever it is that I’m doing.
Scott DeLuzio: And
Wayne Altman: in this case, you would be shocked at how difficult it. To convey to a web developer, to the guys that helped develop this app. You would be very shocked to find out, even though you’re paying the bill, okay? I had to really fight for a big unsubscribed button because I am that determined that if this does not help you, if you find no value in this, I need you to be good, be.
Wayne Altman: Right now, head on, no harm, no [00:35:00] foul. I love everybody, but sometimes you, it’s not enough. Right? And so I don’t, I, and I get just as frustrated as you. I saw the frustration on your face. Look, every few months I come up with something that I’ve subscribed to. I gave them a fair crack and I didn’t want to be a associated with it anymore.
Wayne Altman: I didn’t wanna use it anymore. And they made. Sisyphus, right? I had to roll that rock to the top of the hill trying to just un unsubscribe. And I’ll never do that to anyone.
Scott DeLuzio: Awesome. Well, Wayne, it has been a pleasure speaking with you today. I do wanna give you the opportunity, I know you mentioned the app is available on iOS and Android. Where can people go to find out more about what you do and pricing and all that kind of stuff?
Wayne Altman: Well, look, I love when people contact me directly.
Wayne Altman: So it’s WayneAltman@melodyclouds. Com. And that’s my email address, melodyclouds.com is where they can go. And we have featured artists from around the world. I own every bit of music, every note of music [00:36:00] on that app. I have had specifically created and curated all 17,000 audio books.
Wayne Altman: 30,000 books. So if you can’t find something on Melody Clouds to relax to man, see a Doctor, okay, , I mean, you gotta get to a doctor buddy because there’s a lot there. And by the way, keep an eye on it because next month or the next couple months, we are about to add something I can’t talk about right now, but it is huge.
Wayne Altman: It is groundbreaking technology that’s about to go into Melody Clouds. Maybe you’ll have me back and we can talk about it. Sure. But it’s absolutely, it really is pretty shocking now. Yeah, that’s it man. Just Melody Clouds.com and I hope everybody gets some benefit and let me know what you.
Scott DeLuzio: All right, well, I will have links to everything that we mentioned here in the show notes. So anyone wants to check it out. Melody Clouds.com will be there. I’ll also have links to the iOS and Android apps [00:37:00] as well, so you can hopefully if you’re listening on your phone, you can just tap it real right from there and get to the app pretty easily.
Scott DeLuzio: So, thank you again, Wayne glad to have you here and I’m looking forward to what you have coming up next and I’d be glad to have you back on to talk about it then.
Wayne Altman: Scott, thank you for having me.
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