Episode 348 Phil Anderton Becoming a Dangerous Man Transcript

This transcript is from episode 348 with guest Phil Anderton.

Scott DeLuzio: [00:00:00] Thanks for tuning in to the Drive On Podcast where we are focused on giving hope and strength to the entire military community. Whether you’re a veteran, active duty, guard, reserve, or a family member, this podcast will share inspirational stories and resources that are useful to you. I’m your host, Scott DeLuzio, and now let’s get on with the show.

Hey everybody. Welcome back to Drive On. I’m your host Scott DeLuzio, and today my guest is Phil Anderson. Uh, Phil is a navy veteran who’s here to discuss his story, how he reevaluated, reevaluated his role as a leader in his family, and how others can use that same mindset to re-frame their role in their family.

And we’re gonna get to that in just a minute. But first, I wanna welcome you to the show, Phil. I’m really glad to have you here.

Phil Anderton: Hey, Scott. Thank you very much. Uh, thank you for this opportunity and yeah, for those who who don’t know, Um, just a guy who retired after 20 years and, and in that 20 years with some [00:01:00] experience, um, with some, you know, a lot of tough deployments, a lot of leadership lessons, um, and, and we’ll get to it, I’m sure, but basically 2020 happened and I reevaluated my life and I reevaluated my, I. Contract with the military where I wanted to be when things did or do or don’t, uh, take a turn for the worse. I reevaluated where I want to be. And there was a lot of mindset shift. Uh, there was a lot of work and training and kind of reevaluating things, uh, that took place and that journey that I’ve been on’s about three years long now, and it’s what I call becoming a dangerous man.

So looking forward to getting into that.

Scott DeLuzio: I like it. Yeah. Becoming a dangerous man. I mean, a lot of us going through the military, we, we learned how to be dangerous , right. But in a, in a, um, uh, you know, direct action kind of that, that type of thing. But, um, I. There’s a lot more to it, and I’m, I’m sure we’re gonna get into, uh, all of that in, in this episode here.

Um, but you’re talking a little bit about [00:02:00] your transitioning out of the military, um, 20 year career, which is nothing to, um, you know, just push aside as, oh, you know, just a guy who did 20 years. It’s like, well, that’s kind of a big deal.

Phil Anderton: There’s a lot of guys that do 30, so

Scott DeLuzio: I know Well, there are, yes. Okay. So

we’re, we’re, I, I think we’re getting outta the way that you’re a humble guy and you’re not going to, uh, you know, be one to, to brag about yourself.

So we got that out of the way, uh, early on here. But, um, tell me about some of the challenges that you had to overcome when you were, uh, when you were leaving, uh, the military.

Phil Anderton: Yeah. I appreciate that. Um, I, I know we’re gonna get into the mindset, but I obviously we’re both veterans, we both served. Um, and, and thank you. Right. I know your story, your book, so that that’s a hell of a story and, and sacrifice. Um, so for the veterans on your show, right. The, the biggest thing that I went through that a lot of the veterans that I continue to coach and I communicate with guys that are getting out. On top of medical, right? That’s a big thing on everybody’s mind is the VA and that whole process. But let’s, we’re not gonna be able [00:03:00] to solve that on your show, Scott, so we’ll just forget that. Um, what, what I will say, man, the common theme, and it kind of leads into dangerous man as well as purpose, right?

Men need a purpose, right? Whether it’s, you know, John Eldridge, I believe has a book, if you’re familiar, and he talks about every man needs a, a battle to fight, a journey to go on and a beauty to rescue, right? So men in the military are given their purpose, right? Service above self. Mission, sacrifice, deployment, training. It, it, a lot of that’s given to the man, so, and, and women, of course, our sisters in service. Got you. Right. But we’re talking about men right now with purpose and, and so. If you don’t have something else already built up. And, and for me in particular, I was very fortunate to have started Dangerous Man to start podcasting and kind of dabbling in the coaching space. Uh, I, I, I started with a blog, right? All this was an idea on a blog, and I uploaded a blog to the internet. And that’s kind of where the beginning of this. Um, so to answer your question, man, I would say, let’s see, I’ve only been retired about a year, officially a year with some leave on. So a year and a half.[00:04:00]

Scott DeLuzio: Mm-Hmm.

Phil Anderton: I’m still having a hard time and I have something, I have business, I have my coaching. I have, you know, some pretty good decisions that my wife and I made with some things that give us some freedom that other people don’t have. Um, and I still struggle with, I. Brotherhood, the fraternal, the, the, the, the being a part of something.

Now I’m building my own thing and I’ve created something here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I’ve created a small group with some other veterans and we’re trying to do some things to fulfill that part. But I would say veterans just getting a job’s not enough. Just getting a job is not enough. You, you, you really need to find some, unless that job may be a small entrepreneur venture, a small team venture where you’re a part of something, but yeah, man, veterans need veterans in general. ’cause women and men, they go from serving with that big higher calling, you know, up to and willing to sacrifice your life. Uh, and then you go to Home Depot. That’s the joke, right? I’ll go drive a forklift to Home Depot. [00:05:00] No man, that ain’t, that ain’t enough. Right? You,

Scott DeLuzio: No.

Phil Anderton: say that because you’re scared, you’re insecure and you don’t know where you’re gonna find it. Uh, and again, we’re not here to solve all the problems, but that’s where guys like me and you having already experienced this side, let us help you reach out, ask for help, right? That kind of thing.

Um, certainly don’t try to do it on your.

Scott DeLuzio: no, exactly. And I think that’s, we’re gonna get into that, like kind of building a tribe of, of people and not, not doing this, this thing on, on your own. I mean, this podcast, uh, I would’ve quit this. Years ago if it, it was just me talking because I hate the sound of my own voice , and I’m sure everybody else out there, uh, would like to have a little variety out there as well.

And, and quite frankly, I only have so much knowledge in my head. I, I bring on people like yourself who have experiences and, uh, you’ve gone through certain things, somebody else has gone through a different set of, uh, things and they can share their experiences. Um, but if it’s just the, the one person talking, and again, if

If it’s just you and [00:06:00] you’re keeping to yourself and you don’t have that team of people or that tribe, whatever phrase you want to use to

Phil Anderton: Yeah.

Community tribe. Uh,

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Phil Anderton: I, a lot of people that I will work with now use the word community

and I’m, and I’m trying to interject tribe, to build that right,

to build that

mindset because, uh, again, a, a tribe and very small, very, you gotta start small. You can grow it, but you gotta start small.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. Yeah. Start small. And I think that’s pretty good advice with anything, right? I mean, I mean, just look at, you know, um, you know, anything that you, you do, you gotta, you, you, you’re

Phil Anderton: Yeah,

Scott DeLuzio: on the

Phil Anderton: On Podcast, the Drive On Podcast is 300, what, [00:08:00] 40 episodes Now,

Scott DeLuzio: somewhere on there. Yeah.

Phil Anderton: had

to start at date. You had to start with episode one,

you know?

Scott DeLuzio: but you know, like the example I was gonna give your kid on a playground and, and you got, uh, you know, you’re picking teams for, you know, a, a game. You’re starting with that first person and you’re picking, and you’re picking, but you’re gonna pick.

Phil Anderton: just traumatized a bunch of people who got picked last, by the way,

Scott DeLuzio: I know. Yeah, I know.

You’re, you’re out there, you’re, you’re, you’re crying because you’re, you’re remembering how being picked last, but, but the, in the picking process, you’re picking that the best kid for your team and, and you’re, you’re getting that first one in. You want to have a strong team, so you’re taking in, you know, the, the, the best that you can find.

Um, and then. There’s gonna be some, maybe some stragglers at the end who just happen to be there, , and you bring them in. But, um, they might bring some, some value to the team as well. But, um, so in, in the intro I mentioned that you reevaluated your role as a leader in your family. Um, I, I know a lot of guys say, you know, actually just society in general.

You look at the, the guy, uh, the father, the [00:09:00] husband, whatever in the family as kind of like the head of the, the . The household. And maybe that’s, uh, old school way of thinking, but that’s just the way I, I think society looks at it. But, um, what did you, what did you do as you were reevaluating this, this role?

What, what did that mean to you and how did that

Phil Anderton: Yeah. So, uh, for a little backstory, I’ve

been married going on 18 years. Um, we got, we got, we got together when, after my first deployment overseas, uh, 21, 22 years old, right? So we’ve been together a while. Lot of ups and

downs, lot of ups and downs. I. Three kids. Right? So a little context for your audience.

You know, I, I can speak to marriage and, and family. Um, so in 2020, we’ll, I, I, I, I’ve dropped a lot of my politics, but for your audience, we’ll just, I call it the mostly peaceful summer. Um, and I come from a combat experience background. I come from a martial arts background, a fighting background, so I’ve always been a fighter. But in 2020, I got sucked into the Fox News wormhole like every other, you know, right-leaning, conservative, [00:10:00] terrible person. And the riots, they, they, that was my kind of like, all right, I dropped football when Colin Kaepernick. Now, and again, I’m kind of being really obvious. I’m a very, to myself, conservative right, Christian.

This terrible man. I know. Um, so 2020 and the idea that somebody could make a wrong turn. I know this sounds crazy to some people, but we were on the east coast. We weren’t by this peaceful summer, but it was close enough. It was, it was within a couple hour drive where some of this crazy things were happening.

And I just took offense to it, man. I said, you know, as somebody who’s a fighter, as somebody who’s prided himself on his physical fitness and his, his experience, I knew it wouldn’t be enough. I knew on my own it wouldn’t be enough. And so. I’ll, I’ll try to summarize for, for, for the sake of, this could be its own topic, but men, men think providing because they work and then just being there. And that was kind of me. I was present. I wasn’t at the bars, I wasn’t drinking, I was going to the soccer games. I was going to practice, [00:11:00] was providing financially, but was I really leading right? And so that for me would 2020, the thought of making a wrong turn. And getting pulled outta my car because I don’t align politically with some idiots in the road. Then I gotta defend myself and then I die. Let’s say, and this is all, you know, I’m a thinker. This is all going through my head. I’m like, man, this is crazy. Like, people do that. Like what about the human factor? The respect factor? Like, how is this happening? Right? Well, we all know how it’s happening. It’s a, it’s a giant divide.

And whatever side you think you’re on, on your, your, for your audience, just know I’m on the side of protecting myself and my family and that’s the side I want you on. So I don’t really care who you vote for anymore. I’m kind of over all that stuff. I’ve evolved my thinking and my maturity. To see. They’re all part of the same problem, man.

And I would just tell your guys and gals, it’s up to you and it’s up to how you show up. And so in 2020, I decided I would show up. And what it did is I turned off the noise, I turned off the fox, I turned off, uh, the hate and the just, it wasn’t doing anything. It wasn’t [00:12:00] serving me. And I realized I wasn’t there fully for my family.

And what I mean by that is a leader has to have vision. A leader has to have direction and vision and goals, and a leader has to be able to lead. Through what’s coming. ’cause they’re, they’re not watching what’s coming. And so I turned everything off. I looked at me, I looked at some areas and I, and here’s a punchline.

I bought my first gun. I’d never owned a gun because I’ve always been a hand-to-hand guy. Um, and so that led me to buy my first gun, which led, led me to the EDC route, the license to carry route. I’m a very big proponent of it now because had I made that wrong turn. I would’ve wanted the ability to defend

and protect my family.

I don’t go looking for a fight, but I’ll damn well be ready to, uh, what I call, protect, defend, and destroy the motherfucker that underestimated, or, you know, didn’t see me and didn’t read the room, Right.

I. And so that’s what I would say. That’s a long answer, Scott. I’m guilty of that, man. But it was waking up, right?

I woke [00:13:00] up to the fact I was being distracted. I was, I was not being the leader, I was being a husband and a father. I wasn’t being a leader. Right? So I took a lot of deliberate steps into, right, the protection role, the, the leadership role of looking down the line.

Scott DeLuzio: Right. And I think especially as, as a father like I. I think you said you have three children? I, I have three.

Three as well. Yeah. Um, about them and I think about like my boys, like what kind of men do I want them to be when they grow up? And with anything in life, when you have a newborn child and they’re, they’re growing, they, they go to the, from the infant to the toddler, to the, you know, whatever stages they, they go through.

Right. They’re learning from their environment, what they observe, what they witness, and if they are observing someone who’s just kind of passive and letting life happen to them. And, um, you [00:14:00] know, maybe who doesn’t do any of the things to prepare for, uh, you know. Difficult situations, let’s say. Um, that’s the kind of person that they’re gonna be.

They’re just gonna be like, uh, you know, whatever. And they’re not going to, uh, be that type of person until maybe something bad does happen to them. They’re like, wow, I, that’s a wake up call. I should have prepared for that a little bit better,

Phil Anderton: and and you just hit exactly what I’m talking about. I, I was always confident I’d be able to react. But the difference between needing to react and seeing it coming and be having a plan to respond, that’s a big damn difference,

man. There’s a big difference between already knowing where the fire extinguisher is and already having used one.

There’s a difference in knowing where the a ED is versus, you know, I’ve had a, an older gentleman in the military, in the gym, go down.

And everybody knew where to go to get the a ED, not, hey, what do we do? Not mass chaos, right? So that’s really what we’re talking about is what you just said. It, it’s the difference of I was there and I was always ready [00:15:00] to show up.

I would always react and it might be chaos, but I would, I would do my best. And what I say to what I say to men, Scott, I, Scott, is hope is not a strategy,

right? I you, you could argue, becoming a dangerous man is me eliminating hope. And getting to what I like to say is I’ll get to 80% in 60 seconds or less in almost any situation that I’m put in.

That’s becoming a dangerous man.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. And like you said earlier, you’re not going out looking for

Phil Anderton: No

Scott DeLuzio: dangerous situations. You’re not going out and, and like, Hey, there’s a riot going on downtown. I’m gonna go and just, you know, kick the, the hornet’s nest and, and see what, what kicks out of there.

Phil Anderton: I, I am against all anti March anti protest, anti, I would’ve never been at January 6th. I would’ve never,

I’m not counter, I’m not countering anybody’s stupidity, hate, evil, whatever manipulation they’re playing into.

I’m at my house, I’m fortified. I’m good. You know, we have our few places we gotta go. [00:16:00] Um, and if I could share a story, I’ll give you a perfect example, man.

I was at the Texas, my family was at the Texas State Fair, if you’re familiar,

in Dallas. There was a shooting incident. It wasn’t an active shooter, right? It was a guy who shot another guy and hit two other people. ’cause he’s a terrible shot in a food court. We, we didn’t know that. We didn’t know that. And we were there. We were there in the food court when everybody started running and screaming. And my, we’re getting nachos and we’re like, what the fuck is going on right now? Well, here’s a, here’s a moral of the story, Scott. I had a gun because in Texas I have my license to carry,

Scott DeLuzio: Mm-Hmm.

Phil Anderton: I chose to get. And if you read the Texas State bearer website, which I did, it has a no weapons policy unless you have a license to carry. So in the Texas State Fair, the night of the shooting, which we didn’t know what it was, I had a gun. I put my family off to the side while everybody else was fucking stampeding. I put my family off to the side.

A bunch of other families stayed with us ’cause they had little kids. They didn’t wanna run in the damn stampede.

I had a firearm on me. I [00:17:00] have it on me right now. I had a firearm on me and I was in a position in front of them. Had that guy come outta that food court where the shooting happened, I would’ve, if I needed to, I would’ve, I would’ve.

And I would’ve been there before the cops got there.

Um, but that is an element of being dangerous. I didn’t, but here’s the thing, here’s the mindset. I was really proud of myself. This just happened a couple of months, what was it? A month or two ago. I didn’t go to the sound of gunfire. That’s the difference.

Okay? I’m not asking you to be a sheep dog. Sheep dogs get paid. Sheep dogs have

qualified immunity. You wanna, you want a YouTube? Short? Here’s one for you. Sheep dogs have qualified immunity. If I were to have gone forward, one, law enforcement doesn’t know me from them. Two. Had I engaged, why did I engage?

Why did I, I would’ve had to answer all those damn questions.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah.

Phil Anderton: I call it being a lion, right? I, I, I say let the sheep dog, the law enforcement, the military, the security paid personnel who have qualified immunity, let them herd the sheep. [00:18:00] I roll with lions. That’s the difference, right? I’m not asking you to go be the hero.

I stayed with my family. I put myself in a advantageous position should I need it to engage whoever the hell was causing that ruckus. That’s also becoming, that’s being dangerous.

Scott DeLuzio: Because I, I think just to kind of clarify that just a little bit, you, you did a good job there, but just for the listeners, your objective of getting your, your license to carry, getting the, the firearm, getting the, you know, maybe if you took a additional training, I don’t know, you know, all the, the rules and everything like that.

Phil Anderton: uh, at firearms. Yes,

Scott DeLuzio: Okay.

Phil Anderton: I love training,


Scott DeLuzio: So, so, so you do all the, the training, you go to the range, you practice, you shoot, all that kind of stuff. Again, you’re not doing that ’cause you wanna go out and kill people. You’re doing that because you wanna protect yourself and those

Phil Anderton: around me in my

Scott DeLuzio: you love,

Phil Anderton: vicinity. Yep.

Scott DeLuzio: and, and some of those people were complete strangers.

Um, they just happened to be with you and you would’ve been protecting them, had [00:19:00] that threat come towards you, right?

Phil Anderton: I, I made a post that said they didn’t care who I voted for.

Scott DeLuzio: Right, right,

Phil Anderton: about that. In, in that moment, those, those women that had small children, they don’t care that I’m a toxic masculinity, you know, Trump supporting whatever, and I don’t really, you know, I’m just, I’m, I’m exaggerating the stupidity of all this

identity stuff. They didn’t care in that moment.

Scott DeLuzio: Not in that moment. No.

Phil Anderton: shooting people and I had a gun and I put myself in between them and whoever was shooting,

that’s all they cared about in that moment, and they thanked me after


Scott DeLuzio: And, and so that, that to me is, that’s why you do this because

Phil Anderton: Yes,

Scott DeLuzio: you want to be able to protect those people. Um, because going out and getting, uh, the, the gun and the, the license and the training and all this other stuff after the fact, after somebody has. Shot somebody who you love or care about. It’s too late.

Those people aren’t coming back. Or, or if they survive the, the, the gunshot, you know, they’re, [00:20:00] now, they’re dealing with post-traumatic stress, and they’re dealing with, uh, you know, physical, uh, wounds that, that need to heal and, and maybe debilitating, you know, stuff that, that goes along with that. So it’s too late.

So I think the whole mindset that you’re trying to talk about is just being prepared so that way that bad stuff doesn’t happen. And, and I I love that, that message.

Phil Anderton: And let, and let’s put a nail in this too, and just for your audience who think the gun rights people are looking to go be heroes and kill

people. You and I have been there. You and I know what the human body looks like. Uh, when it’s, you know, we, we know what happens to the body. I don’t wish that on my children. I don’t wish that on my wife, I, I lost a, I gave a piece of my soul so they would never have to. Right.

So veterans who know, people who know. Deescalation distance. Create distance from chaos. Get the hell out of there. People who know how to fight, choose not to fight.

People who know what a gun does to a human [00:21:00] body would never wish that on their children or their family.

And that’s where training and that’s where competence and not just any idiot with a gun, right? But let’s, let’s make sure we differentiate between somebody that just buys a gun and somebody that knows how to use a gun.

Somebody that knows how to use a gun, who has their family will do everything in their power. To create distance from any potential harm to fall on them. The gun is an absolute last fucking resort.

Scott DeLuzio: Right, exactly. Yeah. That’s, it’s not something that you want anyone to, we were just talking, I just mentioned, uh, post-traumatic stress. I mean, seeing that,

Phil Anderton: For my kids. Well, I don’t want them to see

Scott DeLuzio: You don’t want that.


Phil Anderton: no, never in a million years would I wish that on them.

Scott DeLuzio: exactly. Um, so how has this shift in this kind of, uh, dynamics in your, your relationship, in your family, um, how did that impact your, your family?

Uh, did that kind of change some of the, the dynamics [00:22:00] in the family, like the, the role that your, your wife played or, you know, anything like that? How did, how did that

Phil Anderton: I, I, I, don’t, I

don’t wanna say change, I think, I think clarify.

’cause I think good men, I think good men without the language that I use, I think good men, well intentioned. They do most of the stuff I do. I just put clarity around it. I just explained why I do what I do. I took a teacher’s mindset. I started to remind myself, Hey, I have a 16-year-old son. Uh, in two years he’s gonna be on his own. He’s gonna start going on dates. He’s gonna be at the raising canes down the street after a soccer game. I’m not gonna be there.

It’s not enough for me to know this stuff. It’s like it. Here’s the thing. In the older generation, dads took their kids out ’cause they weren’t on their phones and they taught ’em how to change a tire.

They taught ’em how to change oil. They taught ’em how to mend fence or, you know, repair. They taught this stuff. Now we’re parents are competing with this. They’re competing with this. So it’s one thing I always led by example, but now I’ve taken a much, I, I would say to your question, the shift. It added clarity for my family. [00:23:00] Now my son understands why he takes point. The women are in the middle, right? The women are in the middle. ’cause my 11, my daughter and my wife are in the middle and I’m in the rear. And that’s how we walk. And then we, we walk in reverse. And, you know, I started to explain these things to them. So when they’re, when they’re in a different situation, they can look for that.

And if the person doesn’t inadvertently do it now maybe they take a charge role because they’ve been trained, they’ve been explained. They’ve been taught by me, How do, I mean with little kids, you could say, Hey, let’s find how many exit signs we could find.

I’m not saying you have to bombard your kid with most probable, most likely, most deadly course of action.

Oh, you’re gonna die if you don’t do this. No, you just play a game. Hey, how many exit signs can you guys find? And now you train your kids to look up because an exit sign has to be visible.

I. ,Right.

And now in an emergency you can tell your wife to grab your kids and everybody head for an exit. And guess what your kid’s gonna do from five years old?

You’ve been telling ’em to look up to find the exit. They’re gonna look up, they’re not gonna wonder where to go. So it’s little things like that that I started [00:24:00] to become very intentional, uh, with my language and explaining why my back’s to the door, primary and alternate exits routes, explaining myself.

Scott DeLuzio: Yep. Yeah. And, uh, just a another benefit of that is, you know, places that you go often, uh, whether it’s a, you know, you go to the same grocery store or, you know, whatever, things like that. If you’re there with your kids, you do that, that game with them and tell ’em how many exit signs can you find? Well, eventually they start to remember where they are.

And so in a situation where. Maybe they need to get out, uh, in Emergency Exit. And for the, the audience we’re not necessarily talking about everything is, uh, being a, you know, mass shooting kind of situation. It, it could be a fire or, or

Phil Anderton: Fire power outage, car crashes into the damn

Scott DeLuzio: yep.

Phil Anderton: store.


Scott DeLuzio: through the, the front entrance. Yeah, exactly.

Phil Anderton: I read an article that said one of the worst killings was a club in like 2000 something where the, they used pepper spray to break up a fight and it caused everybody to stampede out of the club. And they killed 15 [00:25:00] people

trying to get outta one exit.


was like a 2004 club incident in Florida just from pepper spray. So you never know, and I’m glad you brought that up ’cause I have to be careful of that because my mind I do, I was a, you know, I did some more, I did some War gaming. Uh, so I go to most deadly, sometimes too often out loud,

but certainly most likely down Power. Power goes out for three days, right? A small fire turns into big fire grease fire versus a paper fire or electrical fire. Like, you’re absolutely right. You as a parent, you don’t gotta go far extreme. You can go with the basics. Hey, you run outta gas. Hey, uh, do you know what to do in a small kitchen fire?

Do you know the difference if the grease fire? Do you know what to do? If I have a heart attack and I

kill over? Do you know what neighbor is most likely home if you can’t find my phone? Like these are all scenarios that you can build age appropriately with your family. Absolutely.

Scott DeLuzio: I mean, even just a simple step, like we, in our house, we have a list of phone numbers of people that, uh, our kids can call. Like if something happens to [00:26:00] my wife or me or, or, or something like that. Um, there, there’s a list of, you know, neighbors. Their, their grandparents is all their, these phone numbers are listed on the fridge.

And it, it’s real easy. And, and e we even put, uh, you know, our, our home address on there, like our kids know our home address. But in a stressful situation, you start forgetting things, uh, that, that happens all the time. So you just put that on, on the list. They, they have to call 9 1 1 and give an address.

Okay. Well, it’s written there. Just read it. You know, it, it, it makes it so much easier, you know?

Phil Anderton: that’s great too with, uh, teaching, uh, intersections, you know, teaching your kid how you’re at the intersection of this and this

main and fifth, you know.

Scott DeLuzio: It, it, you know, it, it’s interesting because, uh, I’m, I’m originally from the East coast, uh, moved out to Arizona here, uh, where I am in all the streets. Most of the, the, the main streets here, it, if you were looking at like a bird’s eye view overhead, it’s, it’s a grid. It’s a one mile by one mile square, everything.[00:27:00]

And everybody refers to things like, what, what are your cross streets? Uh, you know, it’s, it’s this street and that street. It’s, you know, that’s the way things are just.

Phil Anderton: Yeah.

Scott DeLuzio: it was bizarre because the streets back, back east where I’m from, there were these twisty, windy, you know,

Phil Anderton: I was gonna say you’re the, you’re the beginning of the country,

so you, you just kind of, they, there wasn’t no city developers and city planners building

out Arizona and different parts of

new cities that get built now.

Scott DeLuzio: it was just a street going around a farm, you know, like so that you can get the horses

Phil Anderton: eminent domain took the farmer and then,

and then made the road straight.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah, exactly. Those are, those are the handful of straight roads. There’s not many from where I’m from, but um, so. We talked about this, uh, these changes, and they’re, they’re, they’re not, again, you, you used the word they’re, you just reinforced, uh, things that people are already doing. Um, and so it’s not like a huge shift, but it’s a mindset shift, I think is more what we’re talking about here.

Phil Anderton: Well

let, let’s talk about where the shift [00:28:00] needs to happen though, right?

So I call dangerous man. I used the word and early on I was, oh, dangerous. I said, look guys, it’s an intentional act to take ownership of your family away from the government. I. Putting it on yourself. So that’s where the shift happens

with my family.

Yes, it was softer. It was soft, using soft skills. And I’m not like hammering, I’m not, I’m not running. I was a bootcamp instructor. I’m not running a bootcamp here. It’s soft in my family. It’s very soft skills that I just became more intentional with and making it fun, making it gamey, age appropriate, right? With men that I coach with, men that I lead with. With your audience. I would say now, hold on now. The intentional part is when you say. Can I feed my family for three weeks? If Kroger and HEB can’t restock

again, a freeze, a natural disaster, a supply chain issue, it doesn’t have to be us versus them, or some crazy crap going on, it could be a Texas freeze that lasts for four days. Right? I’ll give you an example. I’m [00:29:00] from Houston. Uh, my mom and her and her husband are still down there. I think it was Harvey happened. I think I was still in the military when Harvey happened, or I may have just been getting out. He said, this is my stepdad’s quote. Had it gone for one more day, I think we would’ve had people looting the neighborhood because people are so used to Uber Eats delivery, drive-through and grocery store that God forbid the roads actually shut down for 3, 4, 5 days. Again, this doesn’t have to be 10 foil hat shit. I. This can be an actual freeze, an actual fire. I was in California for the Paradise Falls fires and the god dang mudslides that shut down the 1 0 1. Okay. Natural things happen too. On top of manmade and all the other crap we have. All I’m asking you is to take the intention to say if you can’t Uber Eats, if your power goes out. How is your family? Because if you’re the leader of your family, you are responsible for that act of feeding your family. You’re, so that’s the intentional mindset shift that people need to, to, to get on is you own the [00:30:00] responsibility, own it. Are you owning it or are you just along for the ride? Just like you are going to practice?

Homework, kids,

dinner, bed. Are you also like that with, oh, the government will be there. HEB will be there. Kroger will be there. Or pick your grocery store will be there. I can Uber Eats. I can hit a drive through. That’s that passivity shit. Dangerous is about intentionality. Being intentional.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. And all that stuff, you can until you can’t. And then what, you know, and, uh, just another example that I think pretty much everyone in the audience will be able to relate to is, uh, when the start of the pandemic, uh, took place, uh, you couldn’t find a roll of toilet paper on the,

Phil Anderton: No, the toilet paper crisis of 2020. Right.

Scott DeLuzio: you know, and, and that’s, I mean, we can laugh about it now because it’s not like a super huge deal, but

Phil Anderton: it is an example though, to your point

that you can relate. What if it was meat or milk or egg, eggs,

Scott DeLuzio: Or, or all of it at once,

Phil Anderton: or all the

above. Exactly.

Scott DeLuzio: everybody just went out [00:31:00] and, and hoarded all this stuff and now what? The shells are empty, the, the farms can only produce so much, you know, it’s not like they gotta raise the cows to get the, the meat and it’s like, okay, well yeah, we can slaughter a little bit earlier, but, you know, eventually

Phil Anderton: PE people aren’t thinking macro. They’re not thinking Supply chain causes an oil issue, causes a gas issue. Trucks need diesel to move. It ain’t even like the store doesn’t want the stuff to get here. If there ever becomes a fuel shortage, a fuel crisis, and they have to consolidate fuel, guess what’s not. Nope. The, the grocery store’s not getting restocked.

It’s gonna take a hit. The gas station’s gonna take a hit. That means you’re not mobile. You’re no longer mobile. You just lost your ability to move if you, if you don’t have a full tank of gas.

So again, you gotta think it, it one hit to a big part of the system.

There are a lot of second, third order effects.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. A a lot of things and it’s, it’s just being prepared, you know, things [00:32:00] like simple things like you said, uh, learning how to change a tire. You know, you go out and drive a car without knowing how to change a tire. That, to me, that’s just

Phil Anderton: a liability. You’re a

Scott DeLuzio: is. Yeah. Because now you’re on the side of the road with a busted tire ’cause you drove over a nail or.

Glass or whatever, uh, you know, caused that to happen. Um, of no fault of your own. It’s not like you’re gonna see the nail on the street and, you know, purposely try to drive over it. Um, but. These things happen. They fall off the back of a truck or you know, something like that happens, or you’re driving through a construction zone and stuff’s just laying around.

Um, that, that type of thing can happen. And if you don’t know how to change a tire, now you have a car that’s on the side of the road, um, you’re on the side of the road trying to call for help or whatever. You’re vulnerable,

Phil Anderton: to the elements, you’re vulnerable to people, up to no good. You’re vulnerable to a crime of opportunity. Um.

Scott DeLuzio: distracted, drivers, you name it,

Phil Anderton: Distracted. Driver, drunk. Yeah. All kinds of things.

Scott DeLuzio: Any type of thing like that, now you’re opening yourself up to, [00:33:00] uh, this potential, uh, potential harm to you. Um, just because you didn’t learn how to change a tire, which is super simple to do. Um,

Phil Anderton: Yeah. There’s certainly some baseline things you should hit.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so

Phil Anderton: car 1 0 1, where does the oil go? Where’s the anti, you know, antifreeze, change a tire

jump, jumpstart a car. You know the


Scott DeLuzio: just basic, basic stuff and you know, when obviously, like you were saying, age appropriate type things, you’re not gonna be teaching a toddler how to change a tire. Right. But

Phil Anderton: But you could teach a toddler the importance of staying in the goddamn car. When I tell you, don’t get outta your car seat,

Scott DeLuzio: That’s right.

Phil Anderton: mom’s pulled over on the side of the road waiting for the cop to get here

and your dumb butt wants to jump out into the, you know,

freeway mom, what are you doing?

Because you didn’t listen right.

Scott DeLuzio: Yep. Yep. So, so that’s all that stuff is super important I think. Um, so we were talking a little bit, this might be going down a rabbit hole. We’ll, we’ll see. Um, we’ll see where this takes

Phil Anderton: I’ll be careful.

Scott DeLuzio: that’s okay. That’s okay. [00:34:00] You know what, if it, if it goes down a rabbit hole, that’s fine.

We’ll, we’ll deal with that. Um, there’s that, that. Uh, hard times create strong

Phil Anderton: Oh, I

Scott DeLuzio: whole cyclical thing. What, what do you, what do you think, are we on the, the verge that hard times needing to create strong men? Or are we,

are we past that stage? What, where are we?

Phil Anderton: it, man. We, we are in good times. We are in good times.

I’ve, I’ve deployed all over the world, uh, uh, uh, and people who know this, people who’ve traveled. Here’s the nice thing about the military. When we deploy, we’re going to places that people don’t pay for five star resorts.

A lot of these people, my, a lot of my friends and some of these people that I’ve met in Dallas that are, you know, pretty well for themselves. Oh, I’ve been there. Oh, I’ve been there. You, you’ve been to a tourist resort where you had the fucking red carpet rolled out for you.

I was doing things with these guys in the, in the shit right where

the basics weren’t even there. So stop it. You have not seen these other countries the way you think you’ve seen these other countries.

So I will tell you, having [00:35:00] that experience as my contacts and having been around the world. Um, no, these are good times, man. The fact that you can wait in line at your fucking Starbucks. The fact that you can Uber eats the fact that you can have everything delivered, the fact that your lights turn on, right?

I, there’s places who can’t even turn a light switch on consistently.

There, there, there’s places that shit in the hole, in the ground, okay? The fact that we have everything, we have, the fact that our problems, I like to call ’em first world problems. Our first world problems are when the wifi goes out, when the cell service sucks.

When I can’t watch my YouTube video without an ad or it, it, it slowly uploads if that’s what you’re fucking complaining about. No, man, we are in good times, make weak men. We are, we have not even fully appreciated the level of second and third order effect of the weak men that are running our country, running our companies, running our business, running our politics. We have not suffered the [00:36:00] consequences of that yet.

Scott DeLuzio: So I think it’s important for the leaders in, in families, and I’m talking families now because

Phil Anderton: Yes.

Scott DeLuzio: there’s only so many people that you can, you can. Reach out in effect. Focus on home first and then you can, you can expand out to your neighbors or friends

Phil Anderton: let’s, let’s clarify. Focus on the man in the mirror. Focus on the woman in the mirror.

Scott DeLuzio: Sure.

Phil Anderton: Because only there do you have control,

everyone else is, is influenced everyone else. You can influence

even teenagers. How many parents listen to you that can you control your kid? Good luck.

Let, let me know how that works for you. Um, outside of, I mean, it got to a point where ass whoopings don’t work anymore. I mean, most parents will tell you like they spanked for a little bit and then they realize. They’re starting to bring me the belt and ask me if they, you know, okay, well here’s the belt and then is it effective anymore? No.

Like good luck controlling your kids and damn sure I’ve been together 18 years. There is zero control I have over my wife. There is zero control she has over me. We [00:37:00] influence the actions that we wanna see from our partner.

Scott DeLuzio: Right, right.

Phil Anderton: I just want, I like to clarify with words, control the person, the thoughts, the ideas, the beliefs, the person. And that’s why everything with Dangerous Man starts with the man.

Scott DeLuzio: Mm-Hmm.

Phil Anderton: I would challenge the woman is no different. Look in the mirror. That’s the only person you can guarantee results on


Scott DeLuzio: right? So you have, you have this person, you’re looking in the mirror that that’s who you’re, you’re trying to, that you need to control, right?


Phil Anderton: I can control those. Fox News inputs, those, oh, what’s the new current event I should be mad about? I can control that. I can absolutely put up a wall to say not my, I mean, it sounds real callous when it’s like Is any of my fear, scare, worry, outrage, is any of that gonna impact? No, it’s not. It likely already happened, so you’re not gonna impact anything. All you’re gonna do is jump on the bandwagon of outrage on either side,

Scott DeLuzio: It’s true.

Phil Anderton: and you’re gonna [00:38:00] distract from where you can actually make a difference

Scott DeLuzio: And a lot of times the stuff that’s happens in the news, they’re, they’re historians. They’re talking about stuff that has already happened after the fact. It’s over. The, the dust is settled and the, the camera crews are going in and yeah, of course there’s, there’s live events. There’s, you know, the reporters who are on the ground at,

Phil Anderton: distraction,

Scott DeLuzio: but, but those things are not always.

In your backyard. Right? So that’s not the, the stuff that you’re worried about, but the, the stuff that we need to do because good times create the weak, weak men in that, that cycle that we’re talking about, right? We don’t want to get to that next stage where the weak men create the hard times. Um,

Phil Anderton: that’s,

I’d argue that’s more where we are, the weak men. We just, we’re not in the hard times yet.

Um, we, we are seeing the result of weak men, weak leadership. We are seeing the result of toxic leadership, if you wanna call it that.

There’s not a toxic masculinity. There’s toxic people.

There’s, and there’s, and there’s results of [00:39:00] toxic people being in charge of things. Certainly. Um, we, we haven’t fully vested it though, because like I told you, I can still Uber Eats right now

and I mean my, at one point my wife ordered pool. I couldn’t believe this. I said, where the fuck these chairs come from? She, we were going to some pool. She ordered pool chairs from Big Lots and they were delivered within the hour before we had to go leave to go.

I was like, Where am I? Like what is this like? This is crazy. I lived on a mountain at one point with people that would drive down to the village to get rice once

a week, and now my wife’s fucking ordering pool chairs from Big Lots for

like 10 bucks.

Scott DeLuzio: it’s this on on demand

Phil Anderton: are not hard times guys. These are not

hard times.

Scott DeLuzio: no, definitely not hard when you, when you put it that way, it’s not hard.

Phil Anderton: these

Scott DeLuzio: when someone gets your, your Starbucks order wrong, that’s not hard times, that’s

Phil Anderton: That’s

first world problems.

Scott DeLuzio: Exactly. Um, so what advice do you have for, for folks who are looking to redefine the role as family leaders in, whether it’s in challenging [00:40:00] times we’re in, you know, like you said, we’re in good

Phil Anderton: Yeah, let’s, yeah, let’s get into that. So first and foremost, right, let, let’s cast a little, let me, let me debunk, right. security, right? Let me kind of paint, this is how I look at family. This will kind of answer some of it and we’ll kind of go into it.

Scott DeLuzio: Sure.

Phil Anderton: Social Security among all the other government problems that destroyed family social security. Get rid of it. In my mind, I don’t have a social security. I’m not relying on social security. I don’t, I don’t believe, I don’t even have a 4 0 1 KII cashed out and I said I’m gonna do mine. ’cause in 21 years I don’t trust that this shit’s gonna be here. Right. So I kind of upset a lot of people who wanna rely on other people they wanna rely on outside of their control. I. To take care of them. Right. You know what I’m doing? I’m investing in my children. My social security are my three kids and their success, our love for each other, I’m not hurting them. I’m not traumatizing them because I want them to put a roof over my head when I’m 70 years old and potentially I need help.


So that’s how I look at family. So maybe that’ll paint the picture for some of your guys. [00:41:00] I’m not looking to kick ’em out at 18. I’m not looking to get rid of ’em at 18 and say, oh, now I can live my life. No, we’re living life together. We have a whole wall of photos ’cause they’ve been around the world with us.

Like we’ve done that together, right? We’re living our life with our kids, not in spite of or waiting for them to leave so we can go have a good time. We are a family, we are a unit, we are together. So that kind with that instate in mind, where do you have to start as a man or woman? You gotta start with yourself and you gotta say, what am I really good at? Am I capitalizing on what I’m really good at? Where do I have some areas I need to improve? For me in 2020, I needed to buy a gun. I needed to buy a gun and I needed to learn. Now I’d been trained how to shoot guns at, you know, let’s, let’s get something clear. EDC is a lot different. Everyday carry is a lot different. A gunfight with me is gonna be within five feet. I’m gonna pull it out. I’m gonna blow your chest full of holes. I’m gonna put it away and hope I don’t get shot by some fucking security guard who thinks I’m the problem,


So I’m not kicking in doors, I’m not putting on cool guy gear, I’m not [00:42:00] putting on nods and you know, I’m not putting flack on to go clear a building. Okay. So I would say for me it was defense, right? That was a big thing for me. I was already kind of doing the dad thing pretty well. I was pretty involved, homework and sports, and I did some coaching and volunteering at the school. So I’d already kind of had the dad thing. But for your audience, right? What could you do better to, right? What are we going for? What’s the endstate, right? Simon Sinek said, start with why I want a roof over my head when I’m 80. Should the government not be able to provide social security? I wanna take care of my kids, invest in them, build for their success, and make sure they love me in the process. Maintain that relationship in the process. So with that endstate in mind, have your audience ask, what am I doing? Well, if that’s the instate right, let’s not rely on social security. Let’s not rely on a 401k if the instate is my, my kids grow up to be successful humans in society. I doing the best to build that relationship and, and, and, and support them in what they need?

Scott DeLuzio: I think that’s a great place to start and, uh, a good, [00:43:00] good overall advice too because you, you’re looking at the, the end state and there’s, there’s probably in some cases there’s multiple steps that you need to focus on and improve and, um, and, and just work on in general, right. And

Phil Anderton: And, and here’s the thing, if I, if I’m wrong, did I lose anything?

Let’s say my 4 0 1 k’s there and let’s say social security’s there. Did I lose anything by investing in my family with this mindset to drop the selfish, drop the man child drop the me, me, me drop the bullshit going on right now where, oh, I could do it on my own.

Or I don’t need to have kids. luck. Good luck.

when, good luck. If I’m right, if I’m right. Good luck for those solo climbing the corporate ladder and doing it on their own, or maybe they forego having kids. Good luck if I’m right and the government is not what they promised, and the government is not there to deliver Good luck to all you corporate ladder climbers who did it on your own, and you, you, you, you chose other means to take care of your desires and good luck.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. [00:44:00] Yeah. Uh, it, it, to me, it’s like, if. Um, your preparation, uh, is all for nothing. Like if, if you look at it at, at the end of the day and you, you’ve gone throughout your whole life and you never needed to change a tire on the side of the road, or you never needed to use your, your firearm and defense, great.

But you, it’s not like you wasted your life

Phil Anderton: A warrior in

a garden is better. A warrior in a garden is better than a gardener going to war.

Scott DeLuzio: That’s right. That’s right. That’s, that’s, I, I do like that, um, that saying, um, because should something have happened, you’d look back and you’d be like, why didn’t I just take a little bit of time and prepare myself for whatever, like you you’re saying, using a fire extinguisher. I mean, such

Phil Anderton: Who the hell wants their house to burn down if it doesn’t have to?

Scott DeLuzio: You know, I was, I was at, this is years ago, but I was at a, a, just a barbecue cookout, uh, type thing. And there [00:45:00] was, there was a fire, uh, in the grill and the, like, it, it was like one of those billowing flames, like it, the, the grease just got outta control, I guess, or, you know, whatever the case may be.

Everyone started panicking. Someone threw water on it and I was like,

Phil Anderton: Oh,

Scott DeLuzio: like, why?

I knew where

Phil Anderton: Might as well throw. You might as well throw a frozen Turkey in the, in the pot while you’re at it.

Scott DeLuzio: right? I, I knew where the fire extinguisher was. I walked in, I got the fire extinguisher, I came back out, put out the fire, and everyone’s like, oh my gosh, you’re so calm doing it. It’s like, well, it, it, it’s just a thing you need to do. It’s like, like putting gas in your car. You just do it. I don’t know, like.

Phil Anderton: the lid.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah, exactly. You know, smother the, the flames and you know, take out what you can and, and it was fine. Like everything, everything was good. And I mean, the food was ruined, but you know, like,

Phil Anderton: And, and let’s, let’s play on that example because whenever I’m on other shows or people always ask me, okay, well you have combat experience. You’ve done the training, you’ve done this. How do you coach somebody that’s done none of that? I [00:46:00] start with a fire extinguisher

Scott DeLuzio: yeah.

Phil Anderton: that is something that everybody should be able to relate to.

It’s a nice to have you, hope you never need it, but God, if you do a small fire. God forbid you put the grease fire in the sink and you turn water on, and then you just lit your kitchen on fire

and now you just burn. You know, memories, things you’ll never get back. Invaluable things passed down through gen. Because you didn’t have a fire extinguisher and it’s no different than my gun, but I start with fire extinguisher. For people who maybe aren’t gun related, it’s, it’s no different than CPR and Heimlich.

Why wouldn’t you want your kid to learn the Heimlich? God forbid there’s not a teacher. God forbid they’re at the restaurant and nobody knows the Heimlich, and now somebody’s kid dies from choking on a fucking chicken wing because nobody taught their teenage son the Heimlich maneuver.

My son’s gonna learn the Heimlich, my son does. You know, CPR. These are things that. Very basic. It doesn’t have to be all, you know, scary gun. And oh, you know, and here’s the other thing. Get politics outta your mind. If you’re gonna learn [00:47:00] anything from me, you gotta get politics outta your mind. ’cause I got politics outta my mind and it opened up a massive ability to take in knowledge and wisdom and experience from people who have value to add without worrying about who the fuck they voted for.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. Right. And I, I think looking at this, you gotta ask yourself what’s the cost of not being prepared for

Phil Anderton: Somebody dies.

Scott DeLuzio: right?

Phil Anderton: Somebody dies.

Scott DeLuzio: Are you okay with that cost? If you’re okay with whatever that cost happens to be? Uh, you know, think about any of these scenarios that we just mentioned. If you’re okay with your house burning down, you’re okay with someone choking or, you know, dying of a heart attack because you didn’t know CPR

Phil Anderton: You won’t be. You won’t be, but you think it’ll never happen.

Scott DeLuzio: Right, exactly. Because. Uh, there are things that have happened to me in my life that I never thought would happen, uh, to, to my family and, and things like that. I just never thought it would happen, but

Phil Anderton: but it did.

Scott DeLuzio: And then [00:48:00] once, when it did, it was like, holy shit. That’s something that, that, that just happens to other people.

It doesn’t happen to me, but it did, and now I have to figure out how to deal with it. Um, all

Phil Anderton: Yeah. It’s, it’s a, it, it’s not the nicest analogy, but I always say nobody, nobody does a fundraiser for cancer until their kid gets diagnosed with cancer.

Scott DeLuzio: Unfortunately that, that, that’s probably more true than, than not. Or, or they know somebody close to them

Phil Anderton: Well, fam, a family member, somebody close to them, like, aunts, uncles, everybody’s impacted, right? And we can all relate to kids like bad things shouldn’t happen to kids. Bad things should happen to bad people. I. But when something happens to a kid, that inner circle of family, now all of a sudden they’re fundraising,

they’re helping, they’re, they’re putting colored ribbons on their car and they’re all support.

But prior to that happening, they weren’t, they didn’t give a shit.

I, I mean that respectfully, because I, you know, I’ve been, I’ve dealt with certain things that, that I may support for the same damn reason. It’s a human, it’s a human nature.

Scott DeLuzio: it, it, yeah, it, it’s, it’s not, um, you know, knocking them or, or saying that

Phil Anderton: Oh, [00:49:00] not at all. It’s very natural.

Scott DeLuzio: I’m the same way. , you know, I, I, it, it’s human nature. Um, you know, I, I’ve done that very same type of thing and, you know, I, I look back on it and it’s like, okay, well maybe if I did more beforehand, maybe it wouldn’t have even been an issue that I had to worry about.


Phil Anderton: My Mike Tyson’s quote is a great one, right? Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. I say, you know, or, or we would just add to that, don’t wait to get punched. All, all. We’re asking you when you say you wanna become a dangerous man, or, you know, even veterans reaching out for help or support.

Don’t wait to be rock bottom. Don’t wait to get punched in the mouth to know how to take a punch

or to know if you can take a punch or learn how to maybe dodge, duck, dive, dodge, whatever that dodge ball, you know, avoid the punch.

Scott DeLuzio: That’s right.

Phil Anderton: See the threat coming and add distance away from the guy who may punch you.

Right. That’s all we’re saying. Don’t wait to get punched in the freaking mouth

before you realize like, oh, that might’ve been a good idea to listen to that crazy guy on this Scott’s [00:50:00] podcast that was like, Hey, you need to become dangerous. Right.

You’re gonna wait till you get punched in the mouth. You’re gonna wait till your car breaks down.

You don’t know what to do, and there’s no, uh, there’s no tow truck service for two hours. Right?

You’re gonna wait till you run outta gas. You’re gonna wait till you get a flat tire in a shitty part of town. You’re gonna wait till somebody comes to kick your fucking door in to realize your bullshit.

Deadbolt ain’t gonna be enough to stop ’em. You should have had

a gun. You’re gonna wait, and then all of a sudden you’re gonna look at legislation and you’re gonna wanna pass a bill to prevent whatever evil happened to you, and you’re gonna wanna fundraise and support for somebody. Come on. All we’re saying is don’t wait to get punched in the fucking mouth.

Scott DeLuzio: There. There it is. So tell us about the training that you offer for, for folks, uh, who might be

Phil Anderton: Yeah, so I

Scott DeLuzio: becoming a.

Phil Anderton: that man. Yeah, so they, for the DIY crowd, right, my LinkedIn is where I’m most active. I post a lot on LinkedIn. I post a lot of, of, of content video. Uh, a lot of what I do is physical, so a lot of the workouts, uh, things like that. So LinkedIn, if you got it. Um, I [00:51:00] just started a YouTube channel for the podcast and then I have, I don’t know, I think I said, I told you I have 84 episodes.

They’re all solo. I haven’t done interviews yet. I’m looking to get into interviews, but I have 84. It’s just me ripping into a mic on my philosophy, different ideas.

Um, and then I have a website, philanderton.com. I. That, that’s where you can kind of sign up for the newsletter, see a little philosophy, and then yeah.

The, the, the high ticket, right, the is is one-on-one time with me. I do 10 week coaching program. Um, I’ve done some group facilitation with a men’s group that I did for a little bit. And between that and coaching, I really found men lack in three areas when, when they end up needing help, um, they’re lacking confidence, right?

So whether it’s they’re buying into the Andrew Tate masculinity toxic bullshit, so they kind of They know they’re a man, but they’re kind of like God, depending on the environment they’re in, maybe they’re in a more liberal or more kind of area where it’s like they want you to tone down the flannel and beard, right?

They want you to kind of pump the brakes on, on being a man’s man, right? So they’re lacking confidence in an area. [00:52:00] Um, maybe they have the confidence, but they’re lacking clarity, what I call clarity vision, mission. So there’s a lot of coaching that goes into the confidence piece, building their

confidence, whether it’s with biblical masculinity or just, Hey, here’s 10,000 years of history. This is how men are, these are the positive traits to being this way. Um, so kind of building up their confidence, finding that clarity, right, that mission for them. What is it that they want? Is it, most of the men that come to me have kids, have families. They had some kind of come to Jesus moment like I did in 2020 when I realized I.

My bare hands aren’t gonna be enough against a mob. I need a gun now. I carry a gun everywhere I go. I feel much safer. I, IE the Texas State Fair, I had a gun when somebody else had a gun.

Um, and then courage is really combining those two and helping the men. Um, I’ve, I’ve helped a man start a, I’ve, I’ve helped one of my clients start a business, right?

That was his dangerous man. Um, so if you have, if you, anybody in the audience is interested in kind of doing it themselves and, and more of my philosophy, I have the podcast, um, and certainly the newsletter. And then [00:53:00] if you’re interested in working with me, um, yeah, I’d love to, uh, I’d love to help you get on the path to become a dangerous


Scott DeLuzio: Excellent. And I’ll have links to all of that in the show notes for the listeners who are interested in learning more about what you do, uh, following along and, uh, you know, maybe getting some, some one-on-one type training.

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Um, before we wrap this episode up, though, um. I wanna do a segment, I like to call it, is it service connected?

Uh, it’s kind of a way to add a little humor to the end of the episodes here. Some, some of the episodes

Phil Anderton: Yeah, a little

ser. A little serious,

Scott DeLuzio: little, little, little heavy, little

Phil Anderton: wait to get punched in the mouth.

Scott DeLuzio: Don’t. Yeah. Right. And, uh, you know, any of that kind of stuff could, could be [00:55:00] a little heavy for, for some people. So I like to have a little dessert at the end of the episode and end it on a light note.

Um, for the viewers aren’t familiar, it’s, uh, is it service connected? Sort of like America’s Funniest Home Videos, uh, military edition. We try to. Take a look at a video of service members doing something stupid, and we try to predict whether or not whatever happened in the video would qualify for some sort of, uh, service connected disability down the line.

Um, so for the audio listeners of the podcast, um, who can’t see this, obviously, I’ll try to do my best to describe what we’re about to watch, um, and then. Uh, you can always check out the video on YouTube and Twitter and anywhere else that we post this stuff. So, um, so I got the video up here. Uh, so, uh, so Phil, you can see it as well.


Phil Anderton: gotta be Army.

Scott DeLuzio: yeah, it’s looking like Army. One thing I gotta say, I’m looking at this screen, just the, uh, still of this video before I hit play.

Phil Anderton: This looks bad already.

Scott DeLuzio: my God, first off, guys. Get [00:56:00] a fucking phone or something that records, so I can actually see what the hell’s going on. This, this quality is shit.

Phil Anderton: pretty. What is this?

Pre 7 20 10 80 p.

Scott DeLuzio: uh, this is like, you’re, you’re on your, your dad’s flip phone from

Phil Anderton: Yeah.

Scott DeLuzio: 1998 or something.

Um, first off, that’s terrible. So, um. Come on. I need some content here for this thing. I, I need some good stuff. So record it. And if you’re gonna do something stupid, get a actually decent, uh, camera to use for recording it. Um, all right, so I’m gonna start it off here. We got, uh, it looks like they’re in the barracks.

Uh, looks army dressed in their PTs. One guy sitting on the floor with his legs spread open. And there’s nothing.

Phil Anderton: about to get thrown at him. It

Scott DeLuzio: Nothing’s good for any future kids that he is about to have. I’m, I’m going to just predict here, but we’ll see what’s going on here. Uh, here we go. Okay. It looks like they’re throwing a water bottle or something at, at his crotch.

This other guy here? Yep. [00:57:00] Oh, it’s a shoe or something.

Phil Anderton: Oh, Dress

Scott DeLuzio: just, yep. And he just got nailed in the nuts

Phil Anderton: I’m guessing it was some stupid game of like, who chickens out who closes their legs first or something.


Scott DeLuzio: And they probably gotta like, move closer. They probably started at opposite ends and they’re, they’re moving closer or, or something along those lines. Um,

Phil Anderton: I will not confirm or deny of ever participating in shenanigans and barracks.

Scott DeLuzio: yeah, there’s no, no, no barrack shenar shenanigans ever happened. That was just a one-off occasion. I’m sure.

Phil Anderton: Mm-Hmm.


Scott DeLuzio: That, that looked painful. Um.

Phil Anderton: So, let me think. I so Va um, I know Ed is a big thing that they like to claim now, so

I’m sure. I’m sure. I’m sure. Oh, yeah. It’s one of those, like, how do you prove it? How do you disprove it? So they, they, you know, the, I I, and I don’t mean to go down that rabbit hole, but you

know, tinnitus.

Uh, ed certain things that, um, how do they tell you you don’t have it?

Um, were definitely some things thrown around. I didn’t like any of that, but I don’t wanna get into that. Um,

Scott DeLuzio: No, yeah. [00:58:00] We won’t go down that rabbit hole, but

Phil Anderton: that’s a, that’s

a monster in itself.

Scott DeLuzio: I’m, I’m looking at, I’m looking at that video and I’m, I’m saying to myself, just like I do with all the other ones, is if there is any sort of disability that could be related to this incident, um, at least I got it on video and, you know, , I was in the barracks.

Here it is, you know?

Phil Anderton: I don’t, I don’t know if that helps you, but Yeah.

Scott DeLuzio: Yeah. In this case it probably doesn’t help you because this was just pure stupidity and, um.

Phil Anderton: Right on.

Scott DeLuzio: It’s like, man, that was, that was your own dumb asphalt. Why? Why the ? You know? No, we’re not gonna pay you for that. You know, otherwise you’ll have people out there just shooting with no ear pro on and uh, you know,

Phil Anderton: Oh, yeah. The

three, the 3M lawsuit

Scott DeLuzio: Oh yeah. All that kind of crap.

Phil Anderton: thousands. Yeah.

Scott DeLuzio: So anyways, uh, Phil, thank you again for taking the time to join us again for the listeners, uh, all the links will be in the show notes that we talked about today, um, and, uh, check it out and, and, uh, get on the path to becoming a dangerous man.[00:59:00]

Phil Anderton: Awesome, Scott. Thank you very much, man.

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